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Posted by robluvsnic - 12/12/2002 3:02:42 AM
This just gets better and better! Nice one
Nathan. I can't wait to start work again tomorrow (!), because I
just know that there'll be some major developments over the next 12
to 14 hours!
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Please don't beat me!
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/12/2002 9:06:04 AM
*munching popcorn and watching
excitedly*
"Just amazing" begins to lose its punch after
being repeated so many times, so I'm going to just hold my breath.
Nathan, please TURN ON THAT FRIGGIN' VCR!!! Not that I don't believe
you can top your 612, but let's start making the record!
(I
bought a new VCR last night after my 10-year-old soldier finally
gave up the ghost. My new one is stereo (man VCRs are cheap now -
this was a $90 wal-mart job and it's better than the $300 one I'm
replacing), so I'm thinking about re-ripping the runs; might get
nominally better quality, and they'll be stereo instead of mono if
they were recorded in stereo. My 278/IS was probably mono, alas, but
I'm sure some of you guys have better equpiment than
me.)
TM
Posted by Ahlyis - 12/12/2002 10:16:20 AM
Oh man, I wish I'd been taping my runs last
night. I went back and played FT again just for some variety. I had
a perfect run going, and I do mean PERFECT! The frog died cleanly
and smoothly. The Snagret was no problem, came up slow the second
pass. And BLL died in what has to be a record time for only 13
yellows. It was all flowing exquisitely. I got everything in and did
that same wild Pikmin throw off like I do in the video Tomatoman
already has. And then, just as I was tossing the last of the Pikmin
in wild abandon ... The "Hurry Up" message came up! That's how
freaking fast I had the level done!!! It was truly an amazing run. I
really wish I'd been taping.
I now have 4 299's and a single
298 on my FT high score board. I'll have to fix that last score too.
:-)
In other news...
DS - 467
Combined Total -
2016
A nice improvement of 18. And I have to credit
Ferret somewhat on this. I watched his 569 video last night before
leaving work and it gave me some ideas for my own runs. But I need
to get a more consistent pattern down. My pattern here is more of a
patchwork than a smooth, calculated pattern. I should map it out
like I did for FN. I know my score would increase. The 467 run was
good, but far from perfect. I wasted a bunch of time going back to
pick up some pellets that I didn't have enough Pikmin for the first
pass. Time that could have been spent elsewhere if I'd been better
organized.
Better get your game on Grenade, or I'm gonna
leave ya behind like I did poor Tomatoman! ;-)
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I'm just a
pigment of your imagination.
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/12/2002 11:06:05 AM
ouch! *rimshot*
There's no denying I've
been dusted lately. :) I've got to nail that 569, and then I'll get
back to levels where I can make big improvements (i.e. all the rest)
and come leapin' back after ya Ahlyis!
TM
Posted by SuperStein - 12/12/2002 11:09:40 AM
I simply need to bring up my FN score... I need
to be above 400 before I leave that level... Think I'll play some
more tonight...
And Nathan.. Well... I think silence is a proper
way of telling you that that is a great feat. But I'm sure Mike will
get a new score up soon! ;-)
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Beauty lies in the eyes of
the beerholder...!
Posted by SuperStein - 12/12/2002 12:54:14 PM
Forest Navel: 392
w00t! Broke my
old record with crappy 2 Pikmin! ;-)
My combined total has been
raised to:
Combined Total: 1924
Smooth run...! No
bridges though.. and one misfiling.. lost 5 on that one...
Well,
8 more and I've broken 400!
---
Beauty lies in the eyes of
the beerholder...!
Posted by SuperStein - 12/12/2002 2:14:37 PM
Sorry about trippelposting, but I need to bring
up my new Distant Spring and Combined Total
scores.
Ta-Da:
Distant Spring: 397
Combined Total:
1935
Sloppy run, 15-20 died. Only 2 pearls, room for lots
of improvement :-)
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Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/12/2002 8:31:02 PM
Came home tonight and thought I'd do a warm-up
round before dinner, in preparation for another grueling set of runs
tonight. You can guess the rest. First try, easy as
pie.
Forest of Hope -
569
w0000000000000000000t!!! :)
Yes, a small
accomplishment in light of the epic battle presently being waged,
but hell, a perfecto is a perfecto, and it's my VERY long-awaited
second. whee!
Thing is, the run felt clunky out of the box. I
mishandled a lot of stuff early on, threw my timing off by a good
amount, and had bad luck on some of the flower drops, but figured
I'd just plod through it anyway just to remember my route and shake
off the rust - and what happened was a completely ordinary,
plodding, um, perfecto. I wasn't taking it seriously as a run until
the final leg, when I handled the last pearl without getting any
munched and realized I hadn't had any mysterious deaths, my hands
began to tremble, as I realized "this could be it!!"
I
haven't posted a picture of my overall scores for quite a long time,
so here it is. Please ignore everything except the IS and FoH
scores, the rest is really quite
pathetic.
http://tomatoman.net/pikmin/tm-scores-12-11-02.jpg
I'll
post a rundown of my strategy next - I've got to say, I'm really
pleased with this one, especially after I tried and failed to use
Nathan's and hybrids of a few others. This one was really original
(as far as I know) and I think works really well!
Now it's
back to Final Trial, I think, as I try to close the enormous gap
Ahlyis has put between us and claw my way back to the top 10
overall. It's going to take dramatic improvements on at least
two levels to do that.
I love that this game is a year old
and we're all still playing it so obsessively. Shiggy has a real
winner here!
TM
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/12/2002 8:50:16 PM
So here's my FoH strat. It'll be a little on the
brief side in some places.
Start out and collect all the
pellets in the middle, VERY QUICKLY. I do blue, yellow, red, the 1s
and then the 5s in that order. By the time I've got the red 5
underway, the blue 5 is landing. Pick a couple of blues so you've
got 7 or so and head out by the blue onion. Kill the two dwarfs and
bring them back with blues. Pick the remaining blues and as many
reds as you can get before they land. When the dwarfs land, take all
the idle pikmin (you should have 27 or so) and head out towards the
water.
Carefully kill the three dwarfs right in front and the
dwarf bulborb to the left. Just those. Put two reds on each and then
one of anything on each to get them going, and then swarm them once
they're in motion to get them going fast. They should ALL come back
red.
Run back in and pick the 8 blues from the earlier
dwarves, any yellows you might have missed, and then all the reds.
You'll have 67 all together. Flower them.
Run out towards the
bridge with your 67 and swarm the two dwarves. Leave the corpses.
Put five yellows on the bridge, then swarm the sleeping bulborb.
Leave it. Carefully swarm the two dwarf borbs. Continue towards the
gate and swarm the other bulborb. Put six reds and four yellows on
him, yellows first so you end holding a red. Turn back and put reds
on the three red 1s, the two dwarf bulborbs, then another 6 red/4
yellow on the bulborb closest the bridge. The first bell
usually goes off here.
Seperate your pikmin into colors and
get your yellows and reds, whatever's left, and add them to the five
yellows working on the bridge. You should have 22 blues in a clump.
Grab them and hit the water. One each on the blue 1s, leave the 10.
Put all 20 on the bridge by the yellow 20.
Run back to
the middle island; as you arrive, the pikmin working on it should be
finishing. Run right up onto it from the water and put 3 reds and 2
yellows on the yellow 5; take the 11 you have left back towards
land. Put 3 yellows on one of the dwarf bulborbs. Knock down the
flowers; try to time it so you get yellows or reds, since you're out
of blues. If you get blues, you'll have to manage them back in the
middle. Get the 1s going, get the last dwarf by the bridge going,
and return to base.
Here you want to pick about 15 reds as
fast as you can, and hopefully you don't have to manage 1s that need
to change hands as they come back in. Whistle everybody; you'll want
about 65 for this next phase. You'll have a mix of flowers and
non-flowers. Take your 65 out towards the bridge.
Dismiss
them all and take your yellows and blues; you should have 16. Run
over the bridge to the middle island. The 20 blues should just be
finishing; lobs some yellows over to help if they haven't yet. When
they do, get your 36 all together. Throw 10 blues over the side to
the blue 10. Throw 6 blues back towards the middle island. Take the
rest, 20 heavy with yellows, and drop them all on the yellow 20.
Make sure they pick it up, and RUN back with your 6
blues.
Get your reds, and run over to the cliff by the blue
10. Throw up all your reds and blues, and run around through the
water, by the 4 dwarf bears and the sleeping borb, and whistle them.
Be very careful here. With this concentration of reds, about
55 pikmin in all, you can sometimes swarm the borb, but if
he's sitting on a bump or you have bad luck, he might munch a few.
When I'm feeling cautions I rain on him, I don't think it's very
much slower. Get your 6 blues on the blue 10, then throw 4 reds on
it and 10 reds on the borb to get it clear. Go up to the four
dwarves with your 35 reds. This is the most dangerous part. Even
with 100 you can't swarm four and expect not to lose one or two, so
dance with them and try to draw them in pairs or singles. Assuming
you get them with no losses, put 6 on each and rush back to
base.
Continued in next post!
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/12/2002 9:10:15 PM
Back at base, pick the rest of your reds and
hopefully the borb, bears and blue 10 are coming along quickly. You
will probably have to wait a few seconds for the borb. Try to hurry
it in if you can. Gather up your 100 and flower them. The second
bell usually goes off here. Your pikmin count should be 201 as
you head out.
Take your swarm of 100 flowers and head out by
the blue onion. Swarm the three dwarf borbs and knock down the
flowers. Put three yellows on the bridge by the bulborb and then
swarm him with your 97. Head towards the red 20, swarm the dwarf
borb, the two dwarf bears, the other dwarf borb, and the flowers by
the yellow 10. Leave them all. Go out towards the other gate and
swarm the two dwarf bears, then come back to the borb by the red 10.
Swarm him with your 97. Put 6 reds and 4 yellows on the red 10, reds
first so you end holding a yellow. Go back to the can and toss two
yellows at the bomb rocks, and dismiss the rest up against the side
wall. Bomb the wall CAREFULLY and go in with your 87.
Swarm
the three dwarf bears and the big one. Run towards the water and
seperate your colors; grab your blues (you probably have 22) and put
11 on the bridge, well-centered so they don't fall off. Take the
other 11 and all your yellows and a handful of reds and put the 11
blues and 9 yellows on the blue 20, and use the rest getting the
three dwarf bears and the daddy going. Take your 48 remaining reds
and blues and get over the bridge.
Swarm the borb. Rain on
the bear. Get the bear going back with blues, since it's heavier and
will get back a little faster via the water, and put 10 reds on the
borb. Kick the perl out (I can usually do it with one rain of reds)
and put 3 on it. You have 25 remaining; head off the cliff and back
up towards the can. Put three each on the dead dwarf bears and the
dead borb; try to keep a mix of reds and blues with the 9 you have
left. Head back towards the red 20 and put three on the dwarf borb;
if either of the flowers came down red or blue, get what you can;
use the rest in threes picking up the dwarf bears by the red 20. If
you have 1 or 2 left, hang onto them.
The yellows have
finished the bridge; if either of the flowers by the three dead
dwarf borbs came down red or blue and you have extras, get them
going. Go up to the yellows, throw two at the bombs, bomb the gate,
and come IMMEDIATELY back down. Put the three yellows on one of the
dwarf borbs and return to base.
Take the 60 or so in a big
mix from the onions, avoid what's coming in, and RUN back up towards
the red 20. Put blues on the remaining dwarf borbs, clear the
flowers that are left, and put 10 blues on the bear by the ramp.
Head back towards the fire spout and the red 20. Clear any dwarves
and flowers remaining, leaving at least 10 yellows and 20 reds. Get
the yellow 10 and red 20 going, put everything you've got on them,
and return to base. Get whatever's there and go back up to rush
everything that's returning. You should have two full ticks left on
the clock, I can't remember where the third bell goes
off.
When everything's in, take your 100 and head right up to
the other pearl. Swarm all three baddies and get them going back
with an even mix of colors. Pop the pearl with reds and put six on
it. Head back down with your 64 and hang a left into the final
area.
Get the blue 5 and yellow 5 under way. If the sunset
warning happens here or later, you're golden. Kill the rest of the
baddies: carefully swarm the dwarf bear, the two dwarf borbs, and
rain on the bear. Get them all going back and be sure to put 2
yellows each on the yellow 1s. Run back, rush everything forward
with your extras, then get back to the middle. You'll have 536, and
you can watch the rest come in and your score zing up to 569. Set
off your fireworks and do a little dance!
TM
Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 12/12/2002 9:22:00 PM
Tomato, you are THE MAN! w00t! I'm glad
you finally got it. I knew you'd do it eventually, and am thankful
you provided more evidence that using other people's strats doesn't
make anything easy. Good job figuring it out yourself. Rock over
London, Rock on Chicago!
I've got something to show
for my Distant Spring efforts now: I just finished taping a 611 run.
It would have been 613 but for some reason I decided to misfile a
yellow 5-pellet at the end even though I had plenty of time to pull
down some yellows for it. Stupid. I thought I'd shattered my own
record, though, so I didn't want to risk it not getting in at all.
Ugh. So we have a DS 600+ on tape now. I don't even know whose tape
we're going to use on the DVD, however. Mike was the first to 600
but I have the current record, so it's a toss up. You guys should
decide our fates for us. Besides, I know Mike isn't about to roll
over. He'll be taping a 620 soon for all I know. If I were given my
choice I'd want to wait until both of us feel we either (a) can't
get any more out of the level or (b) can't stand the agony of
fighting Wollywogs any longer and do something terribly drastic.
That's all for now, still waiting for JimiThingR to post.
Stupid procrastinator.
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Captain Nathanian
Nibbles of the U.S.S. Awesome
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/12/2002 9:28:38 PM
Thanks, Nathan. Props from the highest are props
indeed! Mostly I'm happy to have my life back, at least for a little
while until FT gets me by the throat.
While I'm on a posting
spree, I'll drop this in. What do you all think of these as labels
for total score?
500: beginner
1000: novice
1300:
wannabe
1500: jet
1700: stud
1800: gangsta
1900:
expert
2000: master
2100: demigod
2200:
grandmaster
My total is now 1882, still a good ways off the
top 10.
On the DVD, I'd say we should go with whatever the
highest score is when we decide to do it, and if there's a tie, it
should be the first to hit the high score. That's more or less the
model we're using now, which is why we've got Snapdragon's 569 on
the DVD even though lots of people have done it since.
My
feeling is: you and Mike give it your best. I'm assuming you'll
reach a point where you think it can't be improved any more. If
you've got it taped (and you WILL, of course!), we go with whichever
comes out on top!
(This all makes me wish DVDs could hold
more - there are so many worthy runs, it's a real shame we can just
barely fit one of each on it.)
TM
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/12/2002 9:47:40 PM
Sorry, correction to the first part of my FoH
strat. Just noticed it reading back over. Hopefully the mistake is
obvious, but the correction is as follows, near the
middle:
Run back to the middle island; as you arrive, the
pikmin working on it should be finishing. Run right up onto it from
the water and put 3 reds and 2 yellows on the RED 5; take the
11 you have left back towards land. Put 3 yellows on one of the
dwarf bulborbs. Knock down the flowers; try to time it so you get
yellows or reds, since you're out of blues. If you get blues, you'll
have to manage them back in the middle. Get the 1s going, get the
last dwarf by the bridge going, and return to base.
Posted by Jimithingr - 12/12/2002 10:08:12 PM
2 out of 5 down...
I finally got my
299 on Final Trial . As Nathan Said, he was there to
witness this so if you can trust anyone, I think he would be
sufficient. Also as he mentioned it was interesting to say the
least.
I have a score board of 250's, 260's, and a 273. What
is so interesting about my score was that, I had no 280's, I had no
290's or anything even somewhat close to 299. But on one miraculous
try I landed the 299 and think I created my own little mark with
this. If you do the math it turns out to be 299 - 273 = 26 .
That's a 26 distance between my first and second place score. I have
to admit, I'm pretty astounded by how this happened.
I
apologize if I am not going to sit here and write my own little
strategy on how I completed this level, I think its pretty straight
forward. I'd rather save the embarrassment of my horrible writing
skills to be displayed for everyone to see, so I know you'll take
this on faith. I will eventually post a picture, or submit it to
someone for verification.
TomatoMan, Congrats on your 569
I'm so happy for you. Nathan and I were talking today about your
accomplishment, and we were both pretty happy you guaranteed the #10
spot. A perfect way to end the list... at least for now. And also
Congrats to Nathan and Mike on their amazing scores on DS. I was
just as astounded and happy as Nathan was last night to see him pull
off another round in the DS competition. I know I'm going to save
that level for last, seeing what these two guys are going through I
don't see anyway that I am ready for that level. Even though I must
say I spend about a entire year working on it, cause it is my
favorite level in the game... Odd I think.
Anyway enough
Ranting, I believe I'm going to conquer the 278 on IS first then
move to Forest Navel, and I promise that I will equal Nathans and
Mikes Score on that level...eventually. until then, Lets keep this
going and keep improving our scores, most of us still have a long
way to go. Also one quick thing, I have combined my scores and I
have a combined total of 2032 Just to help you guys out a
little there.
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"Are you ready for Pikviiiival!?" - Said
the Southern Baptist Church Preacher.
Posted by Mikepharvey - 12/13/2002 4:24:09 AM
congratulations nath, you can have your crown
back. i always knew i was just keeping it warm for you.
Ahylis,
now you know why i wanted the scoreboard up quick.
i finished
the 9 day no deaths wednesday night, day 7,8,9 were very easy and
did not take long. played ds last night, but was making too many
mistakes in the first half. in one run i was about half a spot
behind schedule at half day, but carried on and over the next quater
actually nearly caught up to where i was in my 609 run. if i can
repeat my time for the first half, then i know a big score is on the
way, i am thinking an extra wollywog(and 5 pellet it drops) , which
would add 13 more, so hopefully around 620 is possible. start taping
sunday/monday onwards.
Saw the guy this morning, unfortunately
drunk and sleeping in the corridor. i will try and get the picture
done tonight.
congrats to tm on his fantastic
achievement.
also congrats to ahylis and jimiThingR on their
perfects.
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Incubus rule!
Posted by SuperStein - 12/13/2002 8:37:09 AM
Congrats Tomatoman! And congrats JimithingR
(spelling?)!
Simply great that you got your second perfecto TM,
you certainly deserve it!
No new scores for me, and it won't
be any today either :-( Going away tonight. Don't think I'll do so
much playing before the Christmas holiday.. and hopefully I'll get
the Q and Metroid Prime then... but I'll always turn back to
Pikmin!
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Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by Rouge7 - 12/13/2002 8:52:00 AM
Long time coming, but for me it was worth the
wait:
FN – 452
This was as good a run as I
could have hoped for. I made no mistakes, all 100 of my pikmin were
flowered, and I hit every time checkpoint ahead of pace. Finished
when the countdown was at 4. The thing I’m happiest about is that
all of the changes I made were before the first bell, my core
“70-30” strat remained intact, although I did try several different
patterns, I stuck with what I knew best. My big change was waiting
for the breadbug to drop two blue 5’s, huge timesaver, but this was
the most frustrating part. Whenever the damn thing finally did it, I
would find a way to screw up or one of the grass patches would
conveniently pick that run to have no nectar. Anyway, glad to
finally reach this and look forward to actually getting a good
night’s sleep.
TomatoMan, congrats on the 569! I knew it was
just a matter of time, FT should be trembling with
fear.
Jimithingr, excellent work on FT 299! I know how those
big jumps go, my DS 520 is still 24 points higher than my second
place score, gotta love those.
Nathan and Mike, what can one
say? You guys are terminating with extreme prejudice, I doubt the
smoke will ever clear.
Buy the Weigh, about the two bridges
in FN, here’s what I found:
1. They have no effect on the pellets
from the pearl area.
2. They do provide a shorter route for the
pellets in the big lake. Whether the time difference is critical
depends on your strat. The only pellet in my strat that needs the
bridges is the blue 10 in the lake, which I need to get in before I
make my final big sweep.
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R7
Posted by Ahlyis - 12/13/2002 10:20:54 AM
Good job everyone, especially Tomatoman. Nice to
see you back in the hunt.
Tomatoman, your rankings are
interesting, but I would place Demigod as a higher ranking than
Grandmaster. Just switch those two, IMO.
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I'm just a
pigment of your imagination.
Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 12/13/2002 5:57:45 PM
Rogue, you're finally back on top! I'm glad to
see it. Sweet work, man. Now you can either relax, get on with your
life, or join us in the never-ending struggle in the Distant Spring.
The choice is yours. By the way, I read your strat through and was
surprised at how similar a lot of it is to mine. Again, great minds
think alike. : )
Got a new score:
Distant Spring -
613
An improvement of one. Sad. This is how it's going to
be for Mike and me from here on in, though. Little improvements.
This should have been a 615 but I screwed up with a blue one-pellet
at the end and it didn't get in. I don't know how it failed, though.
Yesterday I had an amazing run with a grotesque ending. It
should have easily been a 619. I was well ahead of schedule and all
of the important Wollywogs dropped blues. I only had one mysterious
death. But all of the sudden I was passing my blue onion when I
noticed five sprouts growing. I thought, "What the hell...I know
I've only lost one guy!" Well, I have this method of getting the
last pearl that involves six blues sneaking it by the fiery
blowhogs. It's almost foolproof. Almost foolproof. The FB's
ended up smoking five of my guys and no one was left to carry the
pearl. I counted everything up and I'm absolutely positive that, had
the mishap not occurred, it would have totaled 619. I'm going to be
reliving the experience in my nightmares for a long time (until I
get 619 or better).
Anyway, now I know that 619 is possible.
I'm not sure how much more can be gotten. That 613
(shoulda-been-615) run I just had was very close to my fastest yet.
What needs to happen to break 630 will be an incredibly fast run
with all blues from the Wollywogs. The combination of these two
things is very rare. There are so many variables in this level that
it's a matter of constant routine and improvisation. In other words,
a pain.
I'm shooting for 620. Wish me
luck.
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Captain Nathanian Nibbles of the U.S.S.
Awesome
Posted by SuperStein - 12/14/2002 4:17:13 AM
Good luck! :-)
mikepharveys DS: 609
confirmation
http://ftp.home.no/mariokart/pics/d%20010.jpg
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Beauty
lies in the eyes of the beerholder...!
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/14/2002 4:42:10 PM
245 on Final Trial. I was robbed - had a
yellow 10 quivering underneath the onion when the timer hit 0. It
was going well - no frog deaths, beating Beady handily with 13
yellows, but his last 1/8 health took forever and he squashed 5, and
a yellow 10 only had 9 on it and didn't return. :P
Much
better scores to come soon, hopefully. This is a tough one, the
timing is really rough and I hate that friggin'
frog.
TM
Posted by Dragorn - 12/14/2002 5:25:10 PM
FoH - 568
And this is my
second 568 on the level!
First, I had a beautiful run,
no mysterious deaths. I was right near the end, putting some reds on
the yellow 20 to get it going. And then, as I'm turning around to go
for the red 5, one of the damn reds falls in the water. I about
broke my controller.
And on the second run, one yellow got
too close to a bomb explosion. And I finished this run, with the
score at 568, with a bit of time before the countdown even
started.
So...close....
---
Why is it called Tourist
Season if we can't shoot them?
Posted by SuperStein - 12/15/2002 6:21:54 AM
Same thing happened to me on my 568 run Dragorn,
it bites..
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Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by Ahlyis - 12/15/2002 6:35:24 PM
No new high for now, but I did finally get all 5
scores on FT to read 299 on my high score board. :-)
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I'm
just a pigment of your imagination.
Posted by robluvsnic - 12/15/2002 8:30:50 PM
Congrats to everyone -- Rogue, Nathan,
TomatoMan, Ahlyis, JimiThingR, Dragorn (did I miss anyone). No new
scores from me, I'm afraid, but I'm certain that I will soon be able
to report a 362 on FN, and once I manage that I'll be moving on to
DS with the aim of breaking 450 (p'raps 500).
Meanwhile,
everyone keep smashing personal bests.
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Please don't beat
me!
Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 12/15/2002 8:59:44 PM
Unfortunately, Rob, smashing personal records is
getting a mite difficult over here. But your encouragement is
appreciated:
Distant Spring - 615
I'm not
stopping until I get at least a 620 because it has slipped through
my fingers several times. This run gave me all yellow and red
5-pellets except for one, so I misfiled two 5-pellets, a yellow
one-pellet and had one death. Still not going to disclose any
details, except that I am beginning to feel that 626 is the maximum
with my strategy.
I have a verification screen shot of my
scoreboard up
at:
www.geocities.com/lennonsapprentice
Good work
on FoH, Dragorn. Keep at it...won't be long now.
Tomato, keep
fighting the good fight in the Final Trial. You'll be posting marked
improvements soon, I'm sure.
Ahlyis, smashing job filling that
Final Trial list with 299's. From what I know, you're the first to
do that on any level with a known-to-be-perfect score.
Congrats
to anyone else I'm forgetting.
Skoal!
---
Captain Nathanian Nibbles
of the U.S.S. Awesome
Posted by Bio Hazard - 12/15/2002 9:42:07 PM
I'm not very good:
IS: 200
FoH:
378
FN: 300
DS: 345
FT: 175
Total: 1398
Posted by SuperStein - 12/16/2002 9:08:30 AM
Nathan! You cannot steal our Norwegian version
of cheers! j/k
Bio Hazard: The more the merrier.. Ho-ho-ho
;-)
Looks as I will be able to play Pikmin tonight.. but the
latest snowfall have caused problems.. I have to pick up that shovel
and dig it away from the entrance...
---
Beauty lies in the
eyes of the beerholder...!
Posted by Rouge7 - 12/16/2002 9:22:11 AM
Thanks Nathan, FN was killing me. Since my last
retirement was premature I’m weary of quitting now, but I’m some 100
points behind on DS and I slept so good this weekend… choices,
choices.
I’m still trying to figure out how to get around
building the two bridges, the time and 8 pikmin saved could be used
towards that infuriating yellow 10 in the water. That lousy blue 10
in the big lake is the only thing stopping me now, but getting that
in without the bridges means I’ll likely have to change my entire
strat and seeing as it took me a month just to change ¼ of it, well,
my tank might be empty.
Won’t be around for awhile, saved
some vacation days for the holiday, so the screenshot will have to
wait until January.
---
R7
Posted by Ahlyis - 12/16/2002 10:12:23 AM
Nathan, nice screenshot! :-) I do have a
question though...
Since your main game is only completed 3
times and only twice with all 30 parts you can answer this for me
without me having to test it for myself. I'm currently working on
mass producing Pikmin in the main game, but I want the surviving
Pikmin to show on the scoreboard. I know that the Total Lost is only
there if you get all 30 parts, but what about Surviving? Does your
scoreboard have 2 or 3 entries for surviving Pikmin?
---
I'm
just a pigment of your imagination.
Posted by SuperStein - 12/16/2002 12:28:15 PM
Noooo! I screwed up! Oink! Argh!
Some
explaining is appropriate. Well, having my best run so far on Forest
Navel I managed to get all the big parts except the Yellow 10 in the
water, and I skipped some small pellets in the end.. well.. many
small pellets. The last red 20 from BLL's lair was on it's way with
24 Pikmin on it. Another red was just about to be sucked up into the
onion. Here comes the stupid part, listen up. Just as the red 20 is
about to be sucked up, I whistle a 100th of a second too early. So,
it falls to the ground, in panic I swarm it with everything I've
got! That's was the second idiotic thing, beacause then it had a
majority of yellows, so I had to whistle it again and throw reds on
it. This took about 5-6 seconds of my time. So I run towards the
incoming 20 red, swarm it, so it has 50, and yes, lots of reds!
However, unfortunately I was one or two seconds too late, it was
under the onion, almost being sucked up when the screen turned
black. The Score? A dissappointing 387, with that last 20 I would
have got 407.. Ough..! I feel like crying :-P
But I like the
game for being so frustrating, makes me wanna brake all of the
records just for showing Olimar that I am the
boss!
---
Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by SuperStein - 12/16/2002 3:32:18 PM
Again:
Location: The pearl
What did I do:
A Pikmin slipped into the water when he was supposed to fight the
clam.
How much did I lose: 10-15 sec
How much time for the
last red 20 to get in: 2-3 sec
Score: 388
Luckily I can
comfort myself with saying that I'll see LotR: tTT before you guys
:)
---
Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/16/2002 5:13:21 PM
OK, I've officially got the FT bug.
Final
Trial - 275
A nice 30-point jump! woo! :)
This
also finally puts me over the 1900 mark at 1913.
Whee!
TM
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/16/2002 7:04:33 PM
And after another hour of
thrashing:
Final Trial: 294
w00t! Finally
managed to get the blue 20 in. 2 md's to the frog, and I guess 4
lost in the Beady Battle. :P First time I managed to get everything
in!
Interesting, with all the time I spent on FoH, how
quickly my FT score came up when I returned to it. Hopefully my
third perfecto isn't too far off, and then I can join the hunt on
the terrifying FN and DS.
- TM (at 1932 now I
think)
Posted by Jimithingr - 12/16/2002 8:07:41 PM
Ok, So I have been recently giving Impact Site,
and Forest Navel. I have to say, I have been going insane trying to
get my 278 in, and I haven't even gotten close yet. I hate that
level, cause there is no time for breathing room. Its a frantic
ride.
On the Forest Navel now, my top score is 390. But I
haven't even gotten close to getting it. I hate that level too. I
know I'm going to start have a breakdown eventually. So anyway I
decided to stop for a day, and get some metroid prime in. Still not
the same as pikmin, but a deserved break. more updates
soon.
---
"Are you ready for Pikviiiival!?" - Said the
Southern Baptist Church Preacher.
Posted by Grenade Guzzler - 12/16/2002 9:19:28 PM
Wow. Simply... wow.
The Distant
Spring: 539
I practically had a seizure when I saw the
539 in my results screen. I was able to bring in all 3 pearls, but I
ignored a couple of dwarfs and all the enemies in the lake. I also
had four mysterious deaths, three from a Puffstool and one from a
Yellow Wollywog.
---
What are you trying to do, wrinkle
it???
Bugs Bunny, episode "Bully for Bugs"
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/17/2002 12:16:58 AM
Ack! You're not going to believe it, I hardly
do, but:
Final Trial - 299
Cumulative total -
1940
I thought, "one quick one before bed," and it all
just fell into
place!
http://tomatoman.net/pikmin/tm-ft-12-16-02.jpg
I
got a little lucky here, because things DO have to go right for it
all to work, but I have to say, it felt pretty calm. And all propz
to Ahlyis, the FT king, for his strat which I admit I borrowed
heavily from, including the Ahlyis-signature techniques of
killing the grubs and the dwarves outside the arena with
Olimar.
The minor things I did differently include:
-
kill both dwarves on the beach with blues before heading to the
bridge, and put 3 blues on the dwarf bear, taking 5 blues out
instead of 8
- kill and collect the other landing area dwarf with
the red 1 while bringing the blues back from the bridge
- have
the 10 reds drop the frog under the blue onion instead of by the
bridge before heading along the fire ridge, and be sure blues are
the first ones back to the onion after the snagret battle so they
automatically collect the frog before you return
- "long-fetch"
the yellow 10 on the far ledge in the beady area from the ground
(rather than running around the outside after the snagret), using
the c-wiggle-stick yellow-fling
- push the last 10 along with the
extra pikmin rather than leaving them at the arena for the return
trip
Other than that, the snagret came up slow on the 2nd
try, I got a good mix of drops that was easy to sort, and I had 30
blues at the end to collect the blue 20 with, so it got back in
plenty of time. Everything was in when the counter hit 4.
(An
aside: I also noticed that the yellow 5 up on the ledge came down by
the dwarf borbs and nectar instead of taking the usual very long
route through the arena - no idea why, I don't think I did anything
different. Maybe its minor random position adjustment put it just
over a boundary? I don't think I've ever seen it do that
before.)
So! That's the three perfectable levels perfected!
Now I have to get on to the vague, uncertain FN and DS. I think my
goals have to be at least 400 on FN and 500 on DS, anyway. I also
feel like I should probably pull another 569 and 299 just so I can't
write those off as flukes. My 299 especially - I was at 245 as of
this afternoon, it was a very rapid ascent!
TM
Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 12/17/2002 12:53:28 AM
Challenge Mode High Scores as of
12-17-2002
Impact Site:
1. 278 (TomatoMan,
SuperStein, cocoapuffs999, Mikepharvey, Rogue7, Nathan Ian Bowers,
*Ahlyis)
Other Top Scores:
8. 273 (Snapdragon, JimiThingR,
Ferret5317, spenser, Cork)
13. 271 (Grenade Guzzler)
14. 270
(Xel23)
15. 263 (GasMan)
16. 253 (jakemrjr)
17. 246
(Lewellyn)
18. 212 (robluvsnic)
Forest of
Hope:
1. 569 (Snapdragon, SuperStein, Nathan Ian Bowers,
cocoapuffs999, Rogue7, Mikepharvey, Ahlyis, *JimiThingR,
*GrenadeGuzzler, TomatoMan)
Other Top Scores:
11. 568
(topotheclass, Dragorn)
13. 544 (spenser)
14. 528
(redpichead)
15. 524 (Xel23)
16. 490 (Lewellyn)
17. 469
(Ferret5317)
18. 450 (jakemrjr)
19. 444
(robluvsnic)
Forest Navel:
1. 452 (Nathan Ian
Bowers, Mikepharvey, Rogue7)
Other Top Scores:
4. 439
(Snapdragon)
5. 418 (cocoapuffs999)
6. 403 (Ahlyis)
7. 397
(redpichead, Ferret5317)
9. 392 (SuperStein)
10. 390
(JimiThingR)
11. 389 (Xel23)
12. 388 (Grenade Guzzler)
13.
377 (Nai)
14. 349 (jakemrjr)
15. 345 (TomatoMan)
16. 335
(robluvsnic)
17. 332 (smoky progg)
18. 303
(AdvanceGamer)
Distant Spring:
1. 615 (Nathan Ian
Bowers)
2. 609 (Mikepharvey)
3. 582 (Ferret5317)
4. 539
(GrenadeGuzzler)
5. 533 (cocoapuffs999)
6. 520 (Rogue7)
7.
516 (Snapdragon)
8. 507 (redpichead)
9. 501
(JimiThingR)
10. 482 (Nai)
11. 467 (Ahlyis)
12. 449
(TomatoMan)
13. 443 (topotheclass)
14. 441 (Xel23)
15. 439
(jakemrjr)
16. 437 (robluvsnic)
17. 399 (Souja246)
18. 397
(SuperStein)
19. 298 (ShadowNinjaGuy)
Final
Trial:
1. 299 (Snapdragon, Ahlyis, SuperStein, Rogue7,
Mikepharvey, cocoapuffs999, Nathan Ian Bowers, *JimiThingR,
TomatoMan)
Other Top Scores:
10. 281 (redpichead)
11.
279 (Grenade Guzzler)
12. 278 (jakemrjr)
13. 267
(Ferret5317)
14. 266 (Lewellyn)
15. 248 (Xel23)
16. 242
(Secrano)
17. 241 (TomatoMan)
18. 220 (robluvsnic)
19. 218
(Kingfisher)
20. 214 (TrentEaston)
Top Ten Combined
Totals:
1) 2213 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2) 2207
(Mikepharvey)
3) 2118 (Rogue7)
4) 2097 (Cocoapuffs999)
5)
2096 (SnapDragon)
6) 2046 (Grenade Guzzler)
7) 2032
(JimiThingR)
8) 2016 (Ahlyis)
9) 1988 (Ferret5317)
10) 1940
(TomatoMan)
Notes:
-- Still need
verification from Ahlyis, JimiThingR and Grenade Guzzler. Rogue's FN
452 was verified via posted strategy while Mike, TomatoMan and I
verified our scores with photos. I witnessed JimiThingR's FoH 569
and FT 299 so it is debatable whether this counts as verification or
not. I gave him asterisks just to be fair, as I did for Ahlyis's IS
278 despite his high standing around here.
--
Tomato's FT 299 was posted just as I was about to post this leader
board...got it in just in time. Glad I checked for new messages
before I posted. Good work, TM! That extra 5 points eeked you out of
your tie with SuperStein for 10th on the Combined Totals
list.
-- If I left anyone out, let us know and we will
correct it on the next list.
-- Remember to post all
new scores in bold.
Posted by SuperStein - 12/17/2002 1:39:25 AM
Oh my God! I'm bumbed of the leaderboard!!! I
need to do some serious gaming when I get home from school..!
Luckily I have a lot of easy points to score on DS, but I wont quit
FN before I have a score over 400.. ough.. I was so
close!
---
Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 12/17/2002 2:00:14 AM
That's a pretty sexy scoreboard, but maybe I'm a
little biased due to recent developments.
Rogue, just
thought you might like (or hate) to know that I am almost positive
462 is possible in the Forest Navel. The problem is that, as I've
said before, achieving that score will take either (a) a massive
reworking of our strats or (b) completely new strats. I'm not
willing to go back into that god-forsaken tract until I'm satisfied
with my work on DS. But I figure my opinion might be useful to you
if you are thinking of pushing the envelope there.
Ahlyis, I
have very little knowledge of how the main game high scores works.
The only score on that screen shot that I actually achieved is the
11 day, no deaths one. The 30 Parts, 27 Days one is a remnant of my
memory card mishap with JimiThingR. I don't remember how many days
it took me to beat it the first time. The 29 Parts, 30 Days one was
just me hitting "Go To Sundown" a couple of times to see one of the
alternate endings. I still haven't seen the complete failure ending.
As for the 11 Days, no deaths one, I was working on the 9 Days, no
deaths challenge until Mike came along and shattered my world with a
FN 447. I decided to just finish it up so I wouldn't have to be
ashamed of it when I posted my FN 452. Sooner or later I'll work on
the 9 Days, no deaths challenge again, but I've always found
Challenge Mode to be my main attraction to the game.
Stein,
I figure you should try to get back onto the Top Ten Combined Totals
before moving on to another game. By the way, how about I switch
from the Norwegian Skoal! to the Irish Here's how!?
Somehow I like the Norwegian version more, though. It's got a nice
ring to it. One more thing, LotR TTT comes out tonight at midnight
here in the States. Has it really already debuted in Norway? That
surprises me. I'm going to see it on Thursday the 19th. Really,
really psyched. I still can't understand how Peter Jackson could
justify omitting Tom Bombadil from TFotR, though. Sacrilege.
Blaugh.
I'd now like to officially add Ferret, Cocoapuffs and
SnapDragon to the Missing Persons List:
Missing Persons
List as of 12-17-02:
1. SnapDragon
2. Ferret5317
3.
cocoapuffs999
Where the hell are those guys? They were
monsters of the Pikmin world but they seem to have turned to the
Dark Side, a.k.a. "Any Other Game But Pikmin." Please return to the
fold and fight the good fight, dearest comrades.
TomatoMan,
I'm not forgetting you in this rant. You were just lying low for a
while, weren't you? Sneaky bastard (can I say bastard on GameFAQS?).
You spent all that time with just one perfect score and then added
two more in a span of less than a week! Heh, looks like you've had
the breakthrough you'd been looking for. Remarkable progress, man. I
hope FN and DS treat you well (though they're not known for wearing
kid gloves). Good luck and godspeed!
Rob, I've said it before
and I'll say it again: Forest Navel is the most deceptive level in
the game. My first impression of it was that it is an oversized
Impact Site...all pellet collecting and one Bread Bug. And Forest
Navel doesn't even have the stupid Flint Beetle to throw a wrench
into things! But the problem is pellet speed. The PAL version is the
same as any other version. You're having the same trouble I did when
I started working on that one in the spring. Nothing seems to work
and whenever you make progress it's by tiny amounts, right? Believe
me, just keep playing it and trying some different things. One of
them will click. It's all about having guys ready for you at the
onions when you return from a big sweep. The only way to really get
anywhere is to keep trying. Keep at it.
Here's
How!
---
Captain Nathanian Nibbles of the U.S.S.
Awesome
Posted by SuperStein - 12/17/2002 8:01:42 AM
Nathan, and all others who are remotely
interested:
No, LotR: tTT has not been 'released' in Norway yet.
But I've got my ticket for the midnight show (00:02 AM) tonight!
So.. since Norway has a head start of the day, (America is so far
behind ;-)) I'll be finished with the film approximately (sp?) 3
hours before NY hits the 18th!
Finally! I get something
before you guys! Curse those region coded
games!!
---
Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by Ahlyis - 12/17/2002 11:02:38 AM
DS - 483
Combined Total -
2032
Creeping up on the 500 mark here. :-)
Nathan,
I added the Asterisk myself on the last high score update. I know I
still need a photo for my IS score. I'll get it eventually. :-)
Also, I'd say that any score witnessed and vouched for by another
player of good standing should be sufficient. I'd say remove the
asterisks from the scores that you witnessed.
Tomatoman, I
see you've crawled back onto the top 10 combined list. Good
job.
---
I'm just a pigment of your imagination.
Posted by SuperStein - 12/17/2002 11:25:37 AM
Good just wont be enough
TomatoMan!
Forest Navel: 403
Combined total:
1946
Tweaked you off the list again!
Finally!
I've passed the 400 mark! Now I need to work in some of them small
pellets in my ending too! ;-)
I'm really getting good at
flowering my Pikmin with the .. ugh.. what's their name? Flying
nectar thingies. I can get 99 Pikmin on one patch of nectar, but
I've never managed to flower the one wich I use to shoot down the
flying nectar thingy. :-P
But this bridge thing.. Currently
i'm working without them, but some day I'm going to clock the time
of the big pellets with just sufficiant Pikmin on them, and all
flowers! But now: w00t!
I can now go to my friend and watch
The Fellowship of the Ring Extended Version before we jump on the
buss headed for town.. and.. The Two Towers! Man, I'm looking
forward to it!
---
Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/17/2002 2:02:40 PM
I did a few FN runs. Spoiled by my recent burst
of success on FoH and FT, I was expecting a relatively easy boost up
to 380 or so to knock Stein the heck back down and reclaim 10th
place before I rolled up my sleeves and got into a detailed strategy
on it.
Ha! Barely broke 300. I still get lost
in those big dark areas down by the beach - often I have no idea
which way I'm facing. Anybody make a map they're willing to
scan?
I hate FN. Maybe I should do DS instead and save FN for
last. Yuck. :P
TM
Posted by TomatoMan - 12/17/2002 3:56:09 PM
OK, OK, a little boost, but enough to pop Stein
back off the top 10 and me back on. Of course, he gets to see TTT
first, so he still wins. :P
Forest Navel -
364
Combined total - 1959
Now, I really must
focus on preparing for TTT. Gonna fire up the enhanced DVD one more
time tonight.
TM
Posted by greatmagnus - 12/17/2002 4:34:05 PM
Become one with the pikmin. Now chant with
me.... Uma Domy Poppy Head, I wanna go to my nice little
bed....
---
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one
and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have
eternal life." -John 3:16
Posted by Grenade Guzzler - 12/17/2002 4:51:35 PM
My 569 on FoH was largely done from Ahlyis'
walkthrough in the CM FAQ.
Thanks man. Too bad I'm ahead of
you in totals though :P
---
What are you trying to do,
wrinkle it???
Bugs Bunny, episode "Bully for Bugs"
Posted by Mikepharvey - 12/18/2002 5:23:34 AM
Well, yesterday was an interesting day, i was
out all afternoon and got back deciding to give distant spring a
rest, and to see if it is possible to get 462 on forest navel. i
started playng at 7.30pm and knew the result at 11.55pm. Ahylis you
were right, nath you were right.
Forest Navel-462 on
tape
i couldnt believe how i changed my strat and
everything worked perfectly still. I would like to thank rogue, as i
got a lot of tips of his 422 guide i read ages ago, and im sorry for
knocking him off number 1 after he has just got there.
well i
guess its back to distant spring again.
congrats to everyone
on their scores, especially tm, get cracking on this
score.
---
Incubus rule!
Posted by SuperStein - 12/18/2002 8:55:40 AM
First things first:
Th Two Towers was
awesome! 2 hours of sleep tonight, but I'm still in a Pikmining
mood! I'm telling you TM, Nath and everyone else who's going to see
it. *POSSIBLE SPOILER?* It's one hell of a massive battle there!
ENJOY!
TomatoMan:
How dare you! Bumping me down with 13
points! Think I'll have to give DS a couple of tries, then I can
take you down for good! Muahaha!
mikepharvey:
DUDE! It
shouldn't be legal! Just one question now, 462 _IS_ the absolute
perfecto for Forest Navel? Sick man! Even if you have it on tape you
can still send me a picture! :-)
---
Beauty lies in the
eyes of the beerholder...!
Posted by SuperStein - 12/18/2002 9:33:05 AM
Distant Spring: 430
Combined Total:
1979
Well.. countered TM's
attack!
---
Beauty lies in the eyes of the
beerholder...!
