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Posted by Lewellyn - 9/20/2002 4:27:17 PM

TomatoMan: As for Pikmin 2, little news apart from the confirmation that Nintendo are working on a sequel [hardly surprising]. Miyamato is quoted as saying a sequel could be pulled off in merely 6 months - which i DO believe, given how the main game engine is already in place..
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Posted by Ice Man - 9/20/2002 4:47:19 PM

DS 349

at last a score worth posting

Posted by cocoapuffs999 - 9/20/2002 4:49:23 PM

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Posted by cocoapuffs999 - 9/20/2002 4:49:39 PM

Forest of hope 490
I had a 10 and 20 by the onion. I am planning to break 500 today.

I had no clue that you guys where so old I am only 13.

Posted by TomatoMan - 9/20/2002 5:18:34 PM

13. Now I'm really depressed. Let's not talk about age anymore. Jeesh.

I vaguely remember being 13, an ice age or two ago. At least, I think I was 13 once.

Posted by cocoapuffs999 - 9/20/2002 7:49:53 PM

Forest of Hope 531
i finally broke 500. All I missed was the yellow 20 and the red 5. I also missed the blue 5. I am surprised I did this since I was unable to break 500 forever. I just changed my strat a bit and got 531. I also had a lot of time left. I am going for the yellow 20 now.

Posted by redpichead - 9/20/2002 9:25:26 PM

does anyone know if there is going to be a pikmin 2? Maybe i will pick up the controller again and get some high scores(even though im still in the top 3 in some of the levels) =)

Posted by redpichead - 9/20/2002 9:26:52 PM

Oh by the way, snap, have you played monkey ball 2? Im sure u have, if so what level are you up to?

Posted by SuperStein - 9/21/2002 3:31:55 AM

Dang! Gotta play more Pikmin... cocoapuffs... your my nemisis! You always take me down.. cept that I got 278 before you... lol.. well.. don't take this the wrong way! I like some friendly competition.. as long as I don't lose!

TomatoMan: If u graduated hs in 84.... you must have been like 18 or sumthin then... so here we are.. 18 years later... I'm guessing your in your mid-30'ies! Excellent I must say, I hope I love games as much s you do when I get to that age!

On my Forest of Hope gaming. I'm using a bit alteres version that Snap, but I have the same time table as him. And yesterday I had 3 runs where I was dead-on him or faster than him at the mid-day-ringa-ding. But of course I HAD to screw up at the bear near the 10'blue pellet on that ledge... dang. I threw a bomb t00tin yellow to the dwarfs he made his noise.. like.. aiii. And that set of my other bombers. Killed 30 of my precious Pikmin. argh! The 2 other times I missed with my bombing at the second pearl.. and accidentally woke up the bearr there.. DOH!

My score is still 516! I need more practice, but I can't today.. Cuz I'm going to a friend who JUST got his cube! About TIME! :P

BTW coccoapuffs.. your on! Let's compete to that 569'er! I think we have another competitor too, Nathan Ian Bowers! It's gonna be cool! W0000t! Cheer 4 me! LOL

Ready.. set... GO GO GO!

Posted by SuperStein - 9/21/2002 1:58:55 PM

OH MY GOD!

Well....
No new record.. i'm just frustrated! I was faster than Snap at the last ringa-ding! MUCH FASTER! So I clear evrythin and go to get the pearl and the two last animals. Spotty Bulborb; painless killing, Bulbear; and fuc*ker didn't drop his bomb... argh! Causeed my much aggrevation and time... so I lost a few pikmin, but I killed it... I clear the rest of the world and my score ends up with 510.... but the two last big animals didn't come in, they were RIGHT next to the onions! darn!! ARGH! I woulD have had a 530+... damn you Pikmin! DO AS I WANT!

Posted by Ahlyis - 9/21/2002 9:33:45 PM

OK, this is extremely odd. To take a break from FoH for a bit, I decided to see if I could do anything with my low IS score without putting too much effort into it. First try, got 245. Pretty good I'm thinking. So I tried again...

IS - 264

That came totally out of the blue (and hooked me on the level)! I've played probably 20 times since and the best I can do is 258 (had three yellow 1 pellets on the way for another 264).

The point is, I have no idea what specific pattern I used to get the 264. So I can't reproduce it and look for where I can tweak it to go after the Flint Beetle as well.

I even went so far as to figure out EXACTLY how many Pikmin you need to clear out everything behind the box, not counting the Flint Beetle. It comes out to 98 Pikmin to carry every pellet out from back there. So then I went and figured out exactly which pellets from the front area I should get in order to get at least 30 of each color Pikmin. (I leave the yellow 5 on the ledge and the blue 5 on the ground by the red onion). Getting all the rest from the onion area and the 3 10's on the stump yields 99 Pikmin. Add in the blue 1 that TomatoMan showed us all how to get and you get 101 Pikmin. As long as the Frog drops two different colored 5 pellets, you end up with a nice 33-33-34 distribution or very close to that.

My problem seems to be two-fold. First, I need to optimize my initial growing and picking pattern. Second, I need to stop screwing up behind the box and wasting time. If I can get both of those under control, 264 should become fairly consistently attainable. Then I can try to work in the Flint Beetle. :-)
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Posted by SuperStein - 9/22/2002 6:06:43 AM

Congrats Ahlyis! Maybe we'll soon have 4 #1s

Posted by SuperStein - 9/22/2002 8:00:10 AM

Small update:
Forest of Hope:
529

Perfect run in every way.. almost... I thin I threw one to few on the last spotty borb at the last pearl... It never came in, dang! Countdown was just started when i finished!

Well... need more practice!

Posted by cocoapuffs999 - 9/22/2002 9:35:35 AM

Forest of Hope 540
I finished just as time ran out. got every thing but the yellow 20.

Posted by Mikepharvey - 9/22/2002 10:09:23 AM

ok people. i will submit the scores i did without the faq.

is - 242
foh- 408
ft-215

Posted by Lewellyn - 9/22/2002 10:25:14 AM

FoH - 490. Wow, that was quite interesting. Earlier this wekk i had several 420 runs followed by a 469. Today i had several 460s followed by 490 all of a sudden. I'll maybe be able to break 500 soon - without the FAQ!
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Posted by SuperStein - 9/22/2002 1:13:05 PM

cocoapuffs!! DAMN! Now I got 539! Thought I was leading, but NO! You had to go and take the lead with one lousy pikmin! lmao!

Well... I got everythin 'cept the Red 5 and Yellow 20 pellets... the bridge-requiring-ones!

Let's race to the finish... but I exhosted now, no more playing for me 2night... I think!!

Posted by SuperStein - 9/22/2002 2:49:39 PM

Holy chicken excrement! Quote from Nathan

Forest of Hope:
568

I decided to give the level a last go this evening. Everything is as perfect as gummy-bears (lmao)! But when I'm throwing yellows for the yellow 20 pellet a red pikmin slips into the water. When I realize it it's already to late to start with a rescure operation with my blue ones. So I go and clear the rest of the level to end up with second best. The timer where at 7 when I was done.

TomatoMan: I'll guess this run is the early one where I'm an inch from perfection, but fumbles it and loses one single arse! Like you did on your IS crusade, I'll probably have to do this level like 100 times until I'll get it all right again. Well, I'm happy and depressed right now, almost like the time a got a 298 on FT when one 1'pellet must have gone to the wrong onion. But that time it was even worse, because I discovered it when everything was safely in, and the timer had just begun.

Well, I have a split second place on this level now. Tomorrow I'll be hitting it hard for the 569. 3 perfect-oes is my goal right now!

Wish me luck.

BTW, cocoapuffs, interesting indeed, if you go ahead and pass me now you have won the race! I surely hope you won't see this message, because by then you'll know that your lead is gone! I'm ahead of all! Nathan, Ahlyis (which have gotten hooked on IS), cocoapuffs and Grenade Gruzzler. But I'm tied second with topoftheclass, but I haven't seen him here lately. I sure hope you guys will soon see a third picture of my wonderful Phillips 14" TV! LOL

Posted by Ahlyis - 9/22/2002 5:20:01 PM

Well, I got another 264 and the lowest on my top 5 is 259 (yellow 5 was being sucked, but didn't count). :-(

One of the scores is a 263 where I had a yellow 1 pellet almost back. Woulda been a 265! I hit the Flint Beetle, but a pellet must have gone back to the wrong onion.

A perfect run with my pattern will only yield a 268. I can't find the time to take on the Flint Beetle properly. I'm still struggling with finding enough time to finish everything.

My pattern is VASTLY different from TomatoMan's. I clear out the entire front area first before even moving the box. I go get the stuff up by where the ship is in the main game while the 3 10 pellets are heading to the onions. It doesn't seem to matter. I've gotten one 264 that way and one getting that area last. I think I'm gonna have to break down and watch TomatoMan's video again and borrow at least part of his strategy. :-(

Oh well, at least I did manage to get the 264 with my own pattern, not borrowed from anyone.
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Posted by robluvsnic - 9/22/2002 9:01:23 PM

There's always so much activity in this thread over the weekend! (to be expected, I s'pose).

Oh well, to put my belated two cents' worth on every shift in the topic so far:

TomatoMan: Thanks for the encouragement (even though all my subsequent enthusiasm was destroyed by the high-score posting frenzy that followed). You're right: beating PBs is really what's most enjoyable about this game, and at least I can take comfort in the fact that I have not used a single walkthrough for my high scores.

Age: er, well, much older than the whippersnappers, but not the oldest I think, just entered the 30s very recently.

DS update: during the 45 minutes of play I got in over the weekend I tweaked my DS strategy to aim for all 3 pearls. Second run I got 365 (only a little short of my best), so I plan to smash 400 soon (maybe one day I'll even break 450 *drifts off to quixotic daydream*).

Ahlyis: funny that you should say you've never seen a phantom death on Puffstool, since I had one during the aforementioned 365 run -- doh! that could have been 366!!!

Stein: well done on FoH (but remember -- keep away from DS! ;) )
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Posted by TomatoMan - 9/23/2002 12:05:57 AM

Ahlyis: don't give me too much credit for "my" strat on IS. 80% of it is really SnapDragon's. I did some fine-tuning that I needed myself to have enough time to clear things out, and there are a few points that I consider key that I had to come up with on my own, but Snap did the basic ryhthm.

Also, on many of the levels, I wonder how much deviation we could realistically expect given the layouts and the time constraints. I'd be pretty surprised if there were strategies that varied wildly when it came to getting the very top scores.

The part of the IS strat that I'm willing to take some credit for include:

- The throwing of the blue 1 over the wall to the yellow mountain area while clearing out the early set of 5s near the yellow onion (not doing that would have spoiled my 278)

- The timing of the 10s and the 9-blue-1-yellow pattern on the blue 10 coming down first, picking the blues, and going to the box with around 25 blues and 1 yellow, to clear the yellow 1, knock down the flowers blue, and fight the beetle with blues

- The collecting of the yellow 5 on the ledge BEFORE going up to the back area.

The rest is really Snap's strategy, the same basic pattern.

I tried some of Stein's suggestions for IS (like getting the blue 5 up where the ship normally is during the 10's-run, and one or two others), but I found they threw my ratios off in ways I couldn't compensate for. Strange how some things just work for some people and some things don't. :)

Last random observation: I understand peoples' desires not to use other peoples' strats, or read the walkthroughs or see the videos, before trying to get their scores; I myself have yet to watch Rogue's 442 on FN or read the strats, hoping to bring my scores up before I do, and I've watched Snap's 569 once, enough to realize that he's much better at killing things than I am. :) Oddly enough, though, when I first watched Snap's 273 on IS way back when, I thought my scores would immediately leap up, but they really didn't. Watching his 569 on FoH didn't help me either; my high of 509 remains and my efforts to use his strat were disastrous. I guess this is just to say that watching the videos/using the strats doesn't necessarily amount to instant conquering of the levels. You still have to really understand things and do everything right. There's plenty of skill involved in doing a perfect run even if you're just following an "established" strat. It's probably sweeter if you invent it yourself, but few of us can speak to that. :)

TM

Posted by SuperStein - 9/23/2002 1:55:53 AM

And it has begun!

Something always goes wrong now.

Example 1: Time, I'm too slow
Example 2: Dwarfies, sometimes I lose on pikmin
Example 3: Phantom deaths at spotty bulborbs and bulbears

I can go on forever, but argh I'm still mad. I keep thinking, maybe my blue ones would have managed to save the doomed little red one. It was like my first run for 278 on Impact Site, I was just going to test it. But there I managed, but here.... damn.... think I'll just go away and cry now. I want the number 1. LOL!

Posted by Mikepharvey - 9/23/2002 9:04:18 AM

new ft score. i got 260 (with my own strat). blue 20 and red 10 were about to be sucked up as well. forgot about black mini bulbear and two dead on bll and 5 yellow to wrong colour. (put two yellow and three blue instead of other way round, realised my mistake too late).

stopped using ahlyis technique for now as i want to see if i can get a perfect with my own strategy.

thanx tm for your guide to IS and thanx to snap for it as well (read tms post).

btw i am 18 from england. any other english people on this?

Posted by SuperStein - 9/23/2002 9:47:00 AM

Nope, but I'm at least european. Norway is my home!

But that wasn't the meaning of this post!

This and only this was the meaning of why I entered this faboulous board yet again.

Some background.
Coming home from school I realize I'm not in the mood for homework, yet. So I switch on my purple cube to get me some pikmin action before I get back to real life.
Try one;
LOL! Everything went wrong, so I ended up in blowing all of my pikmin up in one big bang of 20 bombs :P
Try two;
I manage to do everything a bit faster than usual. And by god not one single pikmin fell into the water, stumbled into the fires or were eaten by some creature with the munchies. I actually end up with having my most perfect run ever! When I was going for that last crucial yellow 20 pellet I take only the ones necessarry (spellin?:P) to carry it. It all goes smoothly and the rest of the run is easy-livin, beacause there was NOTHING left to kill me. I take the blue 10 pellet and the last 3 1 pellets. I carefully set 2 of the right color to each one pellet, and walk them step by step to the right onion (believe me, I've seen 2 blues carry a blue 1 pellet to the yellow onion)!
I finish the whole thing just when the countdown began!

Ahhh... perfection number 3.
And proof, yes, I've thought of that too:

http://ftp.home.no/mariokart/pics/forestofhope-569.jpg

Ahhh... 3 number one scores....
I have now enough energy to to any kind of stupid pointless annoying homework!

Snap, you know when the bell rings for the last time. You are then about to enter the last area, with the box.
With my altered tactic the bell rung for the last time when I was throwing blues at the box, to move it.
So I was way faster than you (well, way is a strong expression, a little we can say OK?). I had killed 3 dwarfies and were carrying them home before you enteres the area. I'm so happy with this, I can say I'm shaking of joy, yet again. LOL.

Well, yes, it was that infernal homework I talked about, yes. See you around board. And BTW, I think the Top 15's need an update now, LOL... nothing to do with me entering the top of the FoH list though... riiiiggghht!

Posted by Ahlyis - 9/23/2002 10:13:34 AM

Ahlyis: funny that you should say you've never seen a phantom death on Puffstool, since I had one during the aforementioned 365 run

Um, I don't think I ever said I'd never seen any with Puffstool. Apologies if I did, because I have seen them there.

My claim was that I've never seen them with Dwarfs. Which I still haven't.
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Tried Snap's pattern on FoH, came up well short on time. Still sitting on 543 there.
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Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 9/23/2002 12:18:11 PM

Forest of Hope - 538

First off, I'd like to congratulate Stein on his 569. Amazing stuff. Excellent and quick work by the Norwegian. Don't worry, kid. I'll be sharing your glory this week.

It took me a while to work back into a groove where I break 500 regularly. I had forgotten everything about the level. But I now have devised the final strategy that I am almost positive will give me 569.

I have never seen a video of Forest of Hope. I have no objection to watching the work of others and learning from that work (as long as credit is given). After all, it is one thing knowing a good way to attack a level - it is something else entirely having the skill to actually pull it off yourself. Anyone who scores a 278 or 569 or 442 or 582 or 299 by following an FAQ should be just as lauded as the person who wrote the FAQ. But I am very harsh on myself and rather prideful so I always cop that, "I don't need your help attitude." Call me a video game purist or just a stubborn fool, but it is what it is. I'm sure most of you know how I feel. If I ever get around to taping these runs of mine (I'll have the VCR running for the rest of my FoH endeavors) and somehow make them available online, there's a good possibility that my strategies will be remarkably different than those of others. That is my goal.

But I digress. On my 538 run in Forest of Hope five Pikmin were eaten. Would've been a 543. The only things I missed were in that area with the yellow 5 on the ledge and the blue 5 in the water. I failed to retrieve:

(1) The Spotty Bulborb
(2) The two dwarf Bulbears
(3) The three yellow 1-pellets

My run was rather sloppy and I wasted a lot of time with some of the details. It was the first run using my final strat (at least I hope it's the final one). I'll fill everyone in on the details of my strat once I find out if it can achieve perfection. I'm almost positive it can.

Posted by Lewellyn - 9/23/2002 12:36:35 PM

Hi Mike, I'm also english and way behind on my pikmin scores.. i've got too much schoolwork.
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Posted by SuperStein - 9/23/2002 1:22:43 PM

thank you Nathan!

That gives me another chance to thank SnapDragon, Ahlyis and TomatoMan for providing such excellent strats. I have fine tuned on them all, but the soul of it is yours.

I have now fine trimmed Rouge7's FN video, I've written down EVERYTHING to do, how many Pikmin I have when I do it and when the 1st, 2nd and 3rd bell rings are, and when the Hurry Up! warning appears. I'll now be hitting that level hard. Hoping to set a good record in time for the 4th of October, then it'll be sunshine time :P
But fear not, I will always come back to Pikmin as long as I haven't got 5 number 1 spots!

*Going to play Forest Navel*

Posted by jakemrjr - 9/23/2002 5:24:41 PM

Superstein,, what size is your TV? It looks pretty small, but that may just be the picture. Does anyone think the size of their TV may influence their scores a bit?

I know it's a little tough on my 36" TV; and when I switch to the 19" it seems to be easier.

Posted by Rouge7 - 9/23/2002 5:27:26 PM

Slight improvement:

FoH - 514

Only got to play a little this weekend, so I was happy that I could raise my score at all. Then I come in and check the board and see the barrage of scores... Well, my modest improvement now looks like a turd.

Congrats to everyone movin' on up and to SuperStein on FoH569.
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Posted by robluvsnic - 9/23/2002 8:27:25 PM

Slight improvement: DS -- 385

It would've been 420, too, if THAT STUPID #%$^@& FROG HADN'T SQUASHED 35 PIKMIN!!! (sorry for shouting -- I'm just a little frustrated about that).

The thing about strategy guides for me is not that it's somehow less of an achievement if you follow a guide -- I know that it's still very hard to get a perfect run even if you are following a guide. It's more a case of I know that I probably wouldn't be able to get a perfect even with a guide, so my sense of achievement comes from seeing my scores improve on account of my developing and tweaking my strategy.

And, Stein, congrats once again.
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Posted by Mikepharvey - 9/24/2002 7:30:52 AM

hi Lewellyn, as you are english, do you buy CUBE mag as i just sent my 278 IS run to the mag (ahylis- i never said anything about using a strategy as i think cube being an english mag and the name tomatoman will mean nothing to them and i think you will agree 278 takes some doing anyway, sorry tomatoman if you wanted me to give you the credit when i sent the vid) anyway the score should be published 4 weeks on thursday so if you want to check it out Lewellyn i would appreciate it.

anyway the main reason i am posting is because i got 299 on FT with my own strat, well 60% ahylis and 40% mine. i finished with 7 on the countdown as well. i would like to prove it so you guys will have to tell me how (i have no digital camera. but i should have access to a scanner next week when i start uni so is it possible to scan in the photo then email it to someone???

also rogue7, in your 422 guide, you state that 442 is possible but would require a different approach to the level. i just wondered how different the approach was as you achieved 442.
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Posted by SuperStein - 9/24/2002 8:20:37 AM

Thanks to everyone *blushing*

And Mikepharvey, if you mail your picture to me <staaser@online.no> Then I can host it so everyone can see!

Forest Navel is one tough cookie! I can be almost as fast as Rouge7 on the first half, but after that everything goes crap :P

Need more practice!

Posted by Rouge7 - 9/24/2002 8:32:26 AM

When I wrote the 422 guide I had not yet hit 442 on FN. My feeling at the time was that something very different was needed for any higher. As I kept trying various methods, nothing worked. At the end of my wits, I decided to see how long it took for the red 20 in the BLL area to get back to see by what time I needed to get it moving. I found that it wasn't too bad and figured if I could just change a few things from the 422 to make it possible to get it moving with 20-some guys and then add to 50 guys it could have a chance. So I was wrong in that statement in the guide and ended up using a similar strat to get 442. I was going to write it up after the DVD came out, but seeing as the video is on the net, I guess I should just submit it...
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Posted by TomatoMan - 9/24/2002 9:10:12 AM

I've just got to say that I can't believe what Stein has done - coming in and getting 3 perfect scores so quickly. I'm going home today and I'll be reunited with my cube, and feel like I might have to spend some more time trying to better my scores. I don't know why I think I'll suddenly be able to do things I haven't before, but I do feel like the bar has been raised.

Mike - if you're conscious enough of using my "strat" that you're apologizing to me for not mentioning it when you sent it in, I'm not sure what to add... I guess all I can say is I would have, but I'm not going to flip out over it. I copiously credit Snap and the others on the board at the end of my vid, as you may have seen. I do take a little pride in at least being the first known 278 (since I've got nothing else to be proud of :P), but I'll get over it.

Right now I've got to get at least one more perfecto somewhere, and it's starting to look like someone may have to beat (and tape) Ferret's 582 on DS if we're ever going to get the DVD done. I'm not saying that'll be me, but maybe I can goad some of my betters into tackling it. (nudge, nudge)

TM

Posted by TomatoMan - 9/24/2002 9:20:23 AM

(Ferret just posted his head back into the DVD topic and said he'd get the tape out to me soon, so you can all relax on that front. Woohoo!)

TM

Posted by SuperStein - 9/24/2002 9:28:10 AM

Cubetastic TomatoMan! If I had a DVD burner I could have made some copies for the european market, but alas.

And remember guys, how long have you had Pikmin, I myself got it on the 14th of June! Release here in Europe!

I really need to play more on FN to master it though!

Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 9/24/2002 10:04:55 AM

I'm probably going to be hated by most people on this board for saying this, but I have to get it off my chest.

Like I said before, I have no problem with viewing someone else's run and learning from it. But copying down everything and following the run exactly? That is not talent. It is simple aping.

I really have always felt this way. But I have tried, until now, to pretend that I have no qualms whatsoever about the borrowing of strategies. I do have qualms, though. I cannot give credit to someone who achieves his scores using this practice:

I have now fine trimmed Rouge7's FN video, I've written down EVERYTHING to do, how many Pikmin I have when I do it and when the 1st, 2nd and 3rd bell rings are, and when the Hurry Up! warning appears. I'll now be hitting that level hard.

Sorry, Stein. You've hit home here. It took me a long, long time to finally get to 442. It took a countless number of strategies to find my final one, and the final strat went through many revisions. I take a lot of pride in having achieved the score without help from anyone. I'm sure Rouge7 feels the same. And now you're going to take a shortcut to the top of the list by copying Rouge's strat detail by detail? That's not cool. I cannot believe that Rouge hasn't expressed frustration yet.

I know what's going to happen. You will reply to me by saying, "well Rouge's video is the core of my run but I tweaked it with little details of my own." Please don't use this as your reply. You have even written down the exact moments that the bells ring in Rouge's run. What you're really doing is achieving scores for Rouge. When and if you get to 442, it rightfully should not go on your memory card in the #1 spot but rather on Rouge's card in the #2 spot.

I was wondering how a new person could get so many high scores so quickly. I had never even heard of Stein a couple months ago when I stopped frequenting this board. And to have 278 and 299.....then get to 569 in a couple of lousy days? I should have known he wasn't actually doing any of his own work.

Yes, I am angry. So now I enter into yet another debate on this board. First there was Snap vs. MasterShay, then Ahylis vs. Snap and now Nathan vs. Stein. All I ask is that people learn from videos. Not copy them. That's crap. Total crap.

Posted by Ahlyis - 9/24/2002 10:21:55 AM

Well, it's a matter of opinion I guess. I agree that it shows a lot more effort, patience and perseverance to do it all or nearly all on your own. And if you are simply copying someone else's pattern, you should admit it wholeheartedly, giving credit where credit is due. Stein has done so.

For me personally, the sense of achievement is much higher when I accomplish something on my own compared to if I just copied someone else, but that's my opinion and not necessarily someone else's.

The high score board doesn't distinguish. You can't take off points based on how original a run was. The high scores are simply the high scores.

I have no problem with Stein's scores being up there next to mine. He DID get a perfect on FT. If I didn't want anyone to copy my strat, either in whole or in part, then I wouldn't have released it to the public.
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Posted by GasMan - 9/24/2002 10:24:15 AM

I just picked up a Gamecube on Friday along with several games and this game has got to be the biggest surprise out of the lot. Making my way through the main game albeit at an extremely slow pace but having accessed the Challenge Mode I thought I'd give it a shot. I've got to say, much respect for everyone that has put the time and effort in on this mode to achieve high scores. Very impressed indeed. :)

I'm giving full concentration to increasing my pikmin count on Impact Site and... forget 278s and such.. I was well chuffed that I made an increase of 5 pikmin from my previous attempt to a grand total now of... 130. :D Heheh.

Anyways, just thought I'd drop in and say hello and let you all know how much I've enjoyed following this thread since I came across the board.

Posted by SuperStein - 9/24/2002 10:38:48 AM

I'm sorry if you feel that way Nathan,
I always alter the strategy (I know you said that I shouldn't say it though) , but believe me i give FULL credit to the one who came up with it. No doubt in that, if you want take me off the board! I wont have a problem with that. And the reason why you didn't know is that I only got the game 3 months ago, and didn't play it that much before I saw this place.

And here's another tip, give me an asterisk next to my score, proving that I DID NOT receive the score by myself. Just copying and altering someone elses so it would fit my playing. I won't have a problem with that.

I'm sorry about all this, and pleas don't make an arguement because of this. I know what I've done. And you know, and I give credit. So put the asterisk there and we'll leave it to that.

Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 9/24/2002 10:52:55 AM

Stein, I apologize. Ahylis is right, the high score list does not concern itself with philosophical details. The problem is really not with you, it is with me. I think it's just insecurity....it shows up in rather everything I do. If I could just be happy with myself then I wouldn't have to criticize others.

And after all, the point is really that we are a bunch of people who have given such a rinky-dink-looking game like Pikmin a chance and found out how much immense fun it is whereas most people passed it right up for a football or fightin game. It should be a tight-knit group here, not a group where several members try to establish a hierarchy.

I acted out of pride. And perhaps some jealousy. But I doubt the latter because I am very confident in my Pikmin abilities and know I will climb the hill soon enough.

You're also right that you've given credit where credit is due. You've never concealed anything.

So there's no need to give you an asterisk....but maybe I should get one or two for composing such an ill-conceived post.

Anyway, back to the game.

Posted by SuperStein - 9/24/2002 10:55:13 AM

Right, good to know.

Yes, happy gaming then.

Posted by Lewellyn - 9/24/2002 12:46:31 PM

Mikepharvey - i do get CUBE mag sometimes - i'll get the next issue - you should have sent it [your IS tape] in to NOM mag. The highest score on IS for ANY person sending in was 214 - and is the winner by about 20 pikmin. What a joke...
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Posted by Ahlyis - 9/24/2002 2:18:14 PM

Challenge Mode High Scores as of 9-24-2002

Impact Site:
1. 278 (TomatoMan)
1. 278 (SuperStein)
1. 278 (cocoapuffs999)
1. 278* (Mikepharvey)
5. 273 (Snapdragon)
5. 273 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
5. 273 (Jimithingr)
5. 273 (Ferret5317)
5. 273 (spenser)
5. 273 (cork)
11. 264 (Rouge7)
11. 264 (Ahlyis)
13. 258 (Xel23)
14. 253 (jakemrjr)
15. 246 (Lewellyn)

Forest of Hope:
1. 569 (Snapdragon)
1. 569 (SuperStein)
3. 568 (topoftheclass)
4. 556 (Grenade Guzzler)
5. 544 (spenser)
6. 543 (Ahlyis)
7. 540 (cocoapuffs999)
8. 538 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
9. 528 (redpichead)
10. 514 (Rouge7)
11. 509 (TomatoMan)
12. 493 (Xel23)
13. 490 (Lewellyn)
14. 469 (Ferret5317)
15. 436 (Destiny)

Forest Navel:
1. 442 (Rouge7)
1. 442* (Nathan Ian Bowers)
3. 439 (Snapdragon)
4. 397 (redpichead)
4. 397 (Ferret5317)
6. 390 (Jimithingr)
7. 345 (Xel23)
8. 339 (jakemrjr)
9. 322 (SuperStein)
10. 321 (cocoapuffs999)
11. 313 (Ahlyis)
12. 312 (TomatoMan)
13. 303 (AdvanceGamer)
14. 298 (robluvsnic)
15. 289 (BLAH38)

Distant Spring:
1. 582 (Ferret5317)
2. 520* (Rouge7)
3. 516 (Snapdragon)
4. 507 (redpichead)
5. 501 (Jimithingr)
6. 470 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
7. 449 (TomatoMan)
8. 443 (topotheclass)
9. 402 (blackmage 200)
10. 401 (Xel23)
11. 400 (jakemrjr)
12. 399 (Souja246)
13. 385 (robluvsnic)
14. 384 (Ahlyis)
15. 382 (SuperStein)

Final Trial:
1. 299 (Snapdragon)
1. 299 (Ahlyis)
1. 299 (SuperStein)
1. 299 (Rouge7)
5. 281 (redpichead)
6. 278 (jakemrjr)
7. 267 (Ferret5317)
8. 260 (Mikepharvey)
9. 252 (Lewellyn)
10. 242 (Secrano)
11. 241 (TomatoMan)
12. 230 (cocoapuffs999)
13. 218 (Kingfisher)
14. 214 (Trent Easton)
14. 214 (Xel23)

Now for some notes.

Nathan, if it had just been 405 on FN, I wouldn't have put an asterisk, but for a 442 and a tie for the top spot, I think we have to be fair to those who haven't been here and don't know you.

Rouge7, do you prefer we post the scores as Rogue7 instead? They had been mixed, but I put them all as Rouge7 for now.

For Impact Site, I think we need to keep ALL scores that are 264 or higher once we reach that point. Since 264 is a 'perfect' run minus the Flint Beetle, anyone who achieves it should have their score remembered. That's my opinion anyway. anyone else wish to comment? And no, I don't say that simply because I have 264 right now. I fully expect to get to 273 or 278 eventually.
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Posted by Ahlyis - 9/24/2002 2:21:16 PM

Geez, only 20 days and this thread is half filled already! Pretty good for a game that is hardly new anymore :-)
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Posted by TomatoMan - 9/24/2002 2:40:19 PM

Ahlyis: agree on the 264 thang in Impact Site.

Another thing I was wondering about a little was now that the high scores are getting crowded with lots of ties, is whether "average high score" might have any place. For example, on IS, my 5 scores are 278, 277, 276, 276, 273, an average of 276. I wonder how that compares to other folks.

Not quite sure myself how/whether such a thing would be usable, just a thought.

TM

Posted by SuperStein - 9/24/2002 2:50:29 PM

I agree Ahlyis, 264 is impressive. The IS Top 15 is overshadowed by 278s and 273s!

I almost set I new record on Forest Navel. Still my home cooked strat though. I figured out that I need to know the level more if I'll ever move on to the fantastiv 442 strat... thanks for it btw :P

Well... my score was 318, but the pearl, a 10 and a couple of 1's didn't make it in time!

But I have an idea. What if i chuck 100 hundred pikmin OVER the wall to the bridge to the pearl use the jet, go get the Blue 20, Blue 10, Yellow 10, Red 20 and leave some yellows by the bridge, then I'll have 30-35 left (depending on how many yellows I leave at the bridge), then I can go and clear the Puffstool area, with my remaining ones! But then again, that can't be good enough for the perfect-o. Cus I need to get the 1'blue in the water there, but I could get that one earlier in the day. Ehh.. need more thinking, but after my opinion rouge has come up with one pretty nifty strat for this level.. tricky indeed.

Nice of you to update the Top 15s Ahlyis, thanks ;-)

I think I'll need to play more pikmin soon, it's such a cool, innovative game. HAHA! to those who just ignored it in the store!

But now... second half of Manchester United-Bayer Leverkrusen in Champions League!

Then, sleeeeeeep *yawn*

Yes, I forgot, my Distant Spring score is actually 386, I found that out when I looked at my FoH confirming pic, take a look yourself, I've never gotten a 382! LOL, that puts my a couple of spots up the latter!

And TomatoMan:
Nice idea, that would surely do things interesting, first to get 5 278'ers! LOL! Then I would have to get 5 299's and 5 569's too! LOL! Hard indeed! My scores for IS is, 278, 273, 272, 271 and 264. Average: 271,6
Peculiar, I only played Impact Site 4 times after my first 264, funny indeed. Well I played it more than that, but that breadbug gave away to of the same kind pellets! But I was lucky when I got my 278 on my first try after the 273!

Posted by Ice Man - 9/24/2002 2:51:24 PM

FoH

449

Posted by Ahlyis - 9/24/2002 3:20:22 PM

I was thinking of leaving the other levels alone, but modifying the way we list IS. The posts are nearly at the size limit already.

I was thinking of doing Impact Site something like this in the future:

Impact Site:
278 (TomatoMan, SuperStein, cocoapuffs999, *Mikepharvey)
273 (Snapdragon, Nathan Ian Bowers, Jimithingr, Ferret5317, Cork)
264 (Rouge7, Ahlyis)
Other Top scores:
13. 258 (Xel23)
14. 253 (jakemrjr)
15. 246 (Lewellyn)

We could drop the other top scores once we have at least 15 at 264 or above.

Comments?
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