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Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/9/2002 7:06:53 PM

The Distant Spring - 500!!!!!!!!!

Finally broke 500 and guess what... ALL BLUES! Haha! I knew it was possible, and I know it is possible to get more, but I really suck at killing stuff... With a little more practice... Muahaha. MUAHAHA MUAHAHAHA!! Oh dear, what's come over me...

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Posted by Ahlyis - 4/9/2002 7:19:26 PM

Justin, check the original Challenge mode topic. Near the end (around post 475 or so) I posted a link to Tomatoman's Impact site 278. I think that thread is on page 2 right now.

Please don't repost the link here, I don't want the link to stay around forever. As soon as the original Challenge mode thread falls off the board, I'm going to remove the files anyway.
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Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/9/2002 7:29:50 PM

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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/9/2002 7:38:37 PM

Hey Ferret - Nathan did a 499 on FoH, which bumps my pathetic 442 off into the dustbin. I didn't think it would last as long as it did. :)

Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/9/2002 8:12:20 PM

Pikmin Leaderboard - April 9

Impact Site:
1. 278 (TomatoMan)
2. 273 (Snapdragon)
2. 273 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2. 273 (Jimithingr)
2. 273 (Ferret5317)
2. 273 (spenser)

Forest of Hope:
1. 569 (Snapdragon)
2. 568 (topotheclass)
3. 544 (spenser)
4. 528 (redpichead)
5. 499 (Nathan Ian Bowers)

Forest Navel:
1. 439 (Snapdragon)
2. 397 (redpichead)
2. 397 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2. 397 (Ferret5317)
5. 390 (JimiThingR)

Distant Spring:
1. 516 (Snapdragon)
2. 500 (Ferret5317)
3. 470 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
4. 455 (redpichead)
5. 452 (JimiThingR)

Final Trial:
1. 299 (Snapdragon)
2. 281 (redpichead)
3. 256 (Ahlyis)
4. 239 (TomatoMan)
5. 232 (Ferret5317)

In my excitement, I overlooked the rest of the new scores that have been posted! And for me, this is the start of a new page. So, update!

Yes, I realize that now after a pleasant Instant Message from that very person. :) Anyhow, this is the real list. And, I'll be taking second place on Final Trial within a matter of minutes... Well, maybe I'll let redpichead stay in the spotlight for a little longer. Muahahaa... just kidding

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Posted by redpichead - 4/9/2002 8:50:09 PM

Wow Ferret! I just got 481 in Distant Spring. Man...all blues too? Jeez!. Well I guess I'm gonna break 500 soon. Hopefully........

Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/9/2002 9:23:25 PM

Well for now I can at least take third place with

The Final Trial - 267

Hey, it's better than nothing. I REALLY am starting to wish I was better at killing enemies. That first run I did tonight had everything down and Beady dead with 248 Pikmin. All the pellets Beady dropped were on the way to the onions! And I guess that's where my brilliant second place idea came from... But, it seems like the Snagret doesn't want to die fast like it did that time and lots more Pikmin want to get smashed by Beady Long Legs before I manage second place.

*fartnuggets!*

Great job on Distant Spring, redpic! And it's good to have you back... :)

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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/9/2002 10:25:02 PM

Hey RedPicHead sorry to do this to you

Distant Spring - 482
With all colors I did this, its so bad, cause that was a near perfect run with my strat, and now I'm back to improving, cause I' won't hold this for long, but with the competition between Nathan and I, this makes my day. So long of a road ahead to 500 I gotta start all over again.
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Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 4/10/2002 2:17:29 AM

Forest of Hope - 529

This is not a joke. My buddy (and Pikmin sparring partner) JimiThingR just pulled a one-up on redpichead a couple of hours ago. Now it seems I have turned the knife. Redpic, I assure you that you are not a target. It is just sheer luck that the two of us have eeked by you in the same evening. Sorry, man. I don't doubt that you'll be back ahead of me in FoH soon if I don't add to my current score. Then again, you did join in on the "Knock Nathan Down to 5th Place in DS" party this afternoon. I was in second place on that level when I woke up in the morning. In less than 24 hours I now find myself in 5th, clinging to the board for dear life. It is a day for spite and revenge, indeed. This day should go down in Pikmin history!

I am beginning to develop a good route in FoH. The only things I left in the level were a red 10, the bulbear guarding the red 10, and two dwarves. That makes 33 points. And I lost a handful of guys in battle (or water). According to my calculations I must have lost 7. The two dwarves were entering the onion area as time expired. But I have no regrets. I still have a lot of work to do!

The 529 puts me just ahead of redpichead for 4th place on the leaderboard for FoH. I think I will work on FoH a good deal more before I go back to DS to seek revenge. And believe me....it will be sweet revenge. SWEET.

Posted by Nathan Ian Bowers - 4/10/2002 3:34:09 AM

By the way, I just thought I'd add here that I defeated a Bulbear using only Olimar in less than a quarter day. I remember somebody inventing that ridiculous "challenge" and only attempted it out of frustration with the FoH. I drowned all my reds and yellows and burned my blues (leaving a couple of sprouts in the ground to avoid Pikmin extinction) - then set out with Olimar to slay the beast. It was remarkably easy. He just runs in circles and you chase his bum. Funny, that's how I feel everyday in real life: I'm just running around in circles while THE MAN chases my bum. Therefore, I can identify with the Bulbear. I feel your pain, Bulbear. I feel your pain.

Posted by Jimithingr - 4/10/2002 7:52:30 AM

Amazing Nathan, Redpichead, this is ridiculous. In the same night not only did we bet your scores, but both of us did it by a hopeful +1 in final score. Its kinda bad because the only thing I was trying to accomplish was beating Nathan's score on DS. But then if I hadn't of gotten my 482 then I would have only been in 5th and been kicking myself. But now I find the kicking will be coming from my competition. Ouch! This level is now heating up and so is FoH. I see the other levels besides Final Trial Dying out,

Folks we are almost at the end of the months of addiction and endless wasting our time to master this game. Its kinda sad really, not only have I lost a lot of interest in Video Games, but hardly can I find a good game nowadays that is worth this much effort. But I do believe that it is the existence of this Board that has kept us all going. The friendly competition, constant updates, and a little trash talk I suppose never hurt anyone, in fact its more of a boost to want to do better to RUB it back in. But I want to thank all of you for keeping up and staying with the board. It truly has been a blast and I do believe that we still have a while to go, before any of us says "That's Enough, I'm done with this game, not even landscaping could get me back into this game". Someone beat me so I don't envelope myself in holding 3rd place, cause I need to make a new strategy now, which I do look forward too. You'll be sitting there and out of nowhere you'll brainstorm and boom, you start working on what to do next. Unfortunately I have no had any more great ideas on DS, I believe I am in trouble.
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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/10/2002 3:28:19 PM

Ok so after a 1 hour break today, I went home and as usual played pikmin. I tried about 4-5 times on DS and decided to tweak my strategy a little bit. Well on my last try I did take a new route. I Went to the back part of the level first ( The second Puffstool) and decided to grab what I could there and managing the 3 dwarfs and the yellow 20. Then with my blues, who I conserved, I went for the other pearl where the blue 10 is on the log and managed to get that. Then after doing so I went for the whole area there with the yellow 10 first puffstool and so on area. I was disturbed to find out that I again pulled a 482!!!
How annoying, to still get everything you went for to only get the same score again. I was sure I had reached over 500 but apparently not. Anyway tonight is going to be "The Break 500 Fest" anyone who wishes to join is welcome. I hope to make it.
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Posted by redpichead - 4/10/2002 5:21:10 PM

Well I have joined the 500 list! FINALLY!! I scored a 507 in Distant Spring. Sorry about that Ferret. I have now thought of a new strategy to get in the 530's and 540's. I am in second. Not for long, I will try my hardest to beat Snapdragon's score. Oh, by the way, I lost 8 pikmin in that run.

Good Luck :)

Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/10/2002 5:24:18 PM

Wow! Great job, redpic... And to think I was just talking about how content I was until someone else broke 500. Hehe, looks like the battle is on :) I'm going to alternate between that and Final Trial though. ONE lucky run against the Beady Long Legs should get me what I'm looking for there!

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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/10/2002 5:24:21 PM

Ok Ok...I was 1 second away from a 516, oh and thats not all. If I try really really hard I might just inch my way to the number 1 or 2 spot for a while so we will see, tonight I will beat you RedPicHead Oh yes Tonight!
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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/10/2002 9:49:42 PM

Ok maybe not tonight....but tomorrow! Oh Yes! Tomorrow!!!!!
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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/10/2002 11:17:09 PM

Thought I'd try the "all-blue" method for DS while I'm beating my head on FT. After a few aborted attempts I managed to get 100 flowered blues together and went off to the back area for the pearl. The first frog jumped out of the pool at me. I swarmed 100 flowered blues around him. He got airborne, came down and crushed 40 of them in one go.

I turned it off.

Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/11/2002 12:03:24 AM

Good luck, TomatoMan! I got really really good at killing frogs... Hehe. But still, every once in awhile I get smacked as it jumps and it's just all over from there. I reset the game when that happens

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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/11/2002 3:31:49 PM

Ok I can't explain this but I got a 70000 on DS today! Woopee!
Ok I'm lying, but I did manage a Distant Spring 501 I don't get it but I play all day yesterday and manage like 482's to 480's. So I go home on my break today and get a 501 in less than a hour. I think I may have figured my strategy out this time, and if that is the case, then I plan on taking the lead if at all possible. More updates coming.

Just for you Ferret 8-)
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Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/11/2002 4:46:14 PM

OMG! *faints*

That's it, I can't handle it anymore... I have to make a comeback and fast! Grrrrrrr

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Posted by redpichead - 4/11/2002 5:15:49 PM

For what it's worth:

Final Trial - 241

One nibble at a time. Sigh.

Posted by Emmit310 - 4/12/2002 5:03:42 PM

An improvement:

FT - 213

I have a good strategy that has a maximum of 225. It does not include the burrowing snagret or the Beady long legs.
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Posted by SwordsmanX - 4/12/2002 5:35:22 PM

Final Trial - 9 *gets whacked*
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Posted by Ahlyis - 4/14/2002 4:48:09 PM

I went from Final Trial 256 to 263 to 276 to 283 until, finally, I got a...

Final Trial: 294

I got every single pellet and carcass and got them all back to the correct locations. I only lost 5 Pikmin. I think they all died against Beady, but I don't remember for sure. I MAY go back and try to improve on this, but I doubt it. I think 294 is my final score on FT.

If anyone's curious, I simply started going after Beady and the Snagret before getting the Blue 20 and the other stuff around the middle of the level. I get all of that stuff after clearing out the back area.
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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/15/2002 8:57:38 AM

*Brings out the Shock Paddles* Don't Die board, we need you, please come back *ZZZAAAPPP* COME BACK!!!!!
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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/15/2002 10:41:56 PM

Heh. :) I'm still very much around - just taking a break to put some food on the table. :)

Ahlyis, that's an awesome score. How the hell do you do it? OK, lemme ask you two questions, which you can answer or not as you please. :)

1. When you fight Beady, do you use lots of yellows or a few? I find more than about 10 hard to keep alive, but it sure is slow.

2. My basic approach with the shagret at this point is to wait until he comes up slow, and then swarm him with 70 or 80 pikmin; this takes him right out if I'm quick enough. However, it often takes a LONG time for him to do this. Do you have a different tactic? Seems if he comes right up, he's very hard to hurt.

Posted by Ahlyis - 4/16/2002 11:25:35 AM

1. When you fight Beady, do you use lots of yellows or a few? I find more than about 10 hard to keep alive, but it sure is slow.

I took all the yellows I had at that point. 23 I believe. I didn't have the 10 from the side by the sheargrubs. I lost 5 of them to Beady stomping, but actually killed Beady relatively quickly.

2. My basic approach with the shagret at this point is to wait until he comes up slow, and then swarm him with 70 or 80 pikmin; this takes him right out if I'm quick enough. However, it often takes a LONG time for him to do this. Do you have a different tactic? Seems if he comes right up, he's very hard to hurt.

I swarm in immediately, then call them all off when he comes up the first time. I wait behind him until he flees, then I swarm the area he was in. If he comes up fast, I usually call them off again and wait behind him. This sometimes gets one or two Pikmin killed, but also does at least some damage to him.

The time I got 294, I got lucky and the Snagret came up slowly right after his first attack. I had all 75 flowered Pikmin (except for a few yellows that became buds by Beady) swarm the Snagret. The snagret died on that first pass.

Here's some other advice. :-)

Throw 10 Pikmin on the yellow 5 pellet near the 2 small bulborbs. That pellet always gets carried back into Beady's arena and takes forever to get back to the onions unless you give it more than the base 5 Pikmin. The other pellets I mostly send back with just the minimum so that I can get the maximum number of pellets per pass.
The last pellet got sucked up with 3 left on the countdown clock.

Also take extra blues to the blue 20. I took 28 the time I got the 294. If you only take 20, it often takes quite a while to get the stupid pellet because some of your Pikmin fall off the ledge and have to be tossed back up by you. If you take extras, you can just toss them all up and even though some fall back down, enough will manage to get the pellet to start it back. As soon as 20 grab the pellet, release any Pikmin still under your control. Hit the release button a couple of times to make sure they all get released. Then go pick the 10 reds that are there. The released blues will help with the pellet and the reds will run back with you to get other things.
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Posted by Ahlyis - 4/16/2002 11:43:38 AM

A few more thoughts :-)

My problem with Beady has always been missing. I toss yellows, they arc through the air, miss Beady's main body, and land on the ground. I'm getting better with my aim, but I have a question for those that fight Beady well.

What camera angle do you use? And at which distance?
I used to use the behind view at medium distance. I was having a miserable time hitting Beady. I switched to the overhead view, also at medium distance, and am doing much better. But I don't like that view much, so I only use it in a few select places. Do you find it better to use a different distance? Is there a better camera angle to use than overhead-mid distance?

Tomato, on the Snagret, are you waiting to see how he is coming up, then swarming him? If so, swarm before he comes up. Swarm the spot where he went down. He will come up in the same spot if that's where the mass of Pikmin are. It saves time and manages to get a few onto his head even if he does come up fast. If he comes up slow, well, it just makes it that much easier to kill him in one pass.

When I trigger Beady, I come in with my yellows as well. I don't leave them outside. In fact, I don't even leave the rest of the Pikmin outside. I release everyone at the edge of the arena, but still inside the arena. It's faster than running back out or leaving them outside to begin with since you will have to go back out to get them after killing Beady. If you leave them near the edge, Beady won't get to them. Beady stays near the center of the arena.

When I run in with the yellows, I have them swarm right in the center of the arena. The sand circles make identifying the center simple. When Beady drops in, it's always with his torso directly over the middle and his legs a little farther out. If your Pikmin are in the center, they are safe from his initial entrance. Then you can attack him immediately instead of having to run back out and get your yellows. It saves some time and is actually safer than running back in with your yellows after triggering Beady.
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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/17/2002 7:50:38 AM

This Board is dead, yeah I know here and there we get a post, but nothing like it was, has anyone seen Ferret, or Nathan, or Snap, or anyone that was a regular lately? I didn't think so. This is sad, I may just go and sell the game now, since apparently no one cares anymore...Come back! (sniffle) please!
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Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/17/2002 10:02:58 AM

I am here! I'm just not in this topic, but I am always keeping an eye on the main list. Once I start playing again I'll be back. No matter how hard I try, I can't seem to let go of my Super Monkey Ball obsession! Ack!

In the words of one of the greatest Monkey Ballers - "Sometimes I wish that someone would take my Monkey Ball game and break it"

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Posted by SnapDragon - 4/17/2002 6:29:12 PM

Jimi, I read this board regularly. I've just been waiting (with trepidation) for someone to beat my DS score before taking the game up again. :) It does look like interest is waning, though... pity, since there was some great competition going on recently. Nobody else has even broken 400 in FN yet.

Ahlyis: Great job on your 294! That's much better than third place. I've personally always just fought Beady with the normal camera angle. I think using reds is a little better than using yellows if you absolutely cannot tolerate losses (ie, you're going for 299). This is because they kill him faster, so spend less time clinging to him, and thus have less chance of getting flung off and accidentally stepped on. That's just my opinion, but hey, it worked for me. The only difficulty is avoiding his feet until he lowers his bulb.

Posted by Jimithingr - 4/17/2002 6:51:50 PM

Very cool guys, nice to see you still check the board regularly.
Snap: I have been actively working on your DS score, I cannot seem to break the 516. I almost had it by 1 second and I would have tied you, but other than that, my current strategy has too many variables for it to be consistent, so needless to say 3 out of ever 10 runs ever makes it somewhere close to being a potential "Finishing Run" but even then I still pull horrible scores. My current 501 has not been broken by me yet, nor have I come close, but I plan on keeping up this challenge I am really dedicated to doing it. Or at least taking second place, so we shall see as the weeks progress. Again understandable, alot of people have put the game down, but here and there drop a line for us, so we know our game buddies are still around. Good Luck on your Current Gaming Adventures guys, hope to see you back soon.
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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/18/2002 8:55:29 AM

Still kicking. :) Yes, I've slowed down a bit - I think I had to after the whole 278 thing - but I'm still hopelessly hooked on the game.

Any of you ever play through the regular game just trying to see how many pikmins you can raise in 30 days while getting all 30 parts? I'm wondering if it would be possible to hit 10,000 that way. Guess you'd have to average 333 a day, and given the 25 available on day 1 it would be more like 350 a day for 29 days following. Think it's possible?

I know I'm getting old, but more and more I find myself wishing there was some way to turn the clock off, in the regular game or challenge mode, and just have a leisurely time to stroll around and carefully do perfect runs. There's just something satisfying about seeing the numbers go up; the clock adds a pressure that can make it fun, but I really think that an ability to have all the days be like day 1 of the regular game, where you get your 25 and end the day when you feel like it, would be a nice addition. Maybe the GameShark will add this capacity somehow when it ships in late May?

The only change I've made recently to the FT runs I'm on (and I have yet to get a respectable score, so take it for what it's worth) is to flower the 40 or so guys I have in the beginning while the first bridge is being built, and NOT going out to get the bridge-builders and bringing them back to flower with the others. Actually, I find killing the frog to be a little easier with a mix of flowers and non-flowers, for some reason. I think it might be the timing with which they grab him - having the slow ones come in a tiny bit later gives me a little more time to try to surround him, which seems to be important.

Posted by Ahlyis - 4/18/2002 11:07:05 AM

Tomato,
10,000 isn't possible. This was discussed on another thread, but basically, the max you can get on any level is about 300 on Impact Site. And that's only because of the three pearls! The other levels are under 200 max Pikmin per day.

As for the frog, I was wondering if it might be because the flower and leaf Pikmin attack at different speeds. I wonder if that offset allows them to hold him down better. Just a thought :-)

Snap,
thx :-) I might try it with reds. But not right away. I'm playing a couple of PS2 games I rented right now. But they're due back soon and I'll probably give FT another try.
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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/18/2002 3:25:46 PM

TomatoMan - I totally agree that it would be fun to take your time and stroll through the level and work on perfect runs, I have stressed myself out with DS and still I continue to irritate myself playing it over and over and over, I think I forget little things playing the level and that's why I can't do very well anymore, that or I have just over played the damn thing. Anyway I guess I'll try again tonight, Snap I'm coming for ya 8-)
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Posted by Ahlyis - 4/21/2002 2:37:09 PM

Final Trial - 296

I only had 294 with the clock ticking down, but I knew I had only lost 3 Pikmin. So where was the other 2? I grabbed a bunch of Pikmin and started randomly tossing them into the bushes near where the sheargrubs are. Sure enough, I had missed one of the female grubs. Got it into the onion just as the clock hit zero. Just as it was about to fade out, I saw the count tick to 296! Whew, that was close :-)

I have since then gotten another 294 and a 295. I'm close to matching Snap and the perfect 299.

Now, I'm finishing the whole thing just as the timer starts to count down. I've adjusted my pattern so that, even if the Snagret comes up slow several times in a row, I still have time to get everything.

There's only three danger points in the whole level. There's plenty of places to lose a Pikmin, but only three that are tough.

1) The frog. Killing him is easy. Killing him without losing any Pikmin takes some luck along with the skill. I'm getting better. I can usually kill him without losing any Pikmin now. But there's still that luck factor where he will manage to get airborne. When he does, I always call the Pikmin and rush them behind me. Sometimes this works, sometimes he crushes some. And there's still the problem of the mysteriously dead Pikmin when the frog dies. I'm sure he must somehow crush a Pikmin when his body topples over, but there's never a scream or a ghost. Just a loss of a Pikmin.

2) Beady Long Legs. I've taken to fighting him with just 15 yellows now. It seems to be enough to kill him relatively quickly while still being few enough to control well. I'm fairly consistently killing Beady with 0 to 5 Pikmin deaths. With a bit more practice I should be able to get that down to 0 more often than not. So far though, the few times I've managed to have fewer than 3 losses, the ****ing Snagret comes up fast 6 times in a row or so.

3) The Snagret. The first attack I just run behind him and call my Pikmin. On a rare occasion, they will not listen and continue to attack. In that case the Snagret eats three of them before I can do anything about it. But most of the time, the only problem is that he decides to come up fast many times in a row. It's hard to get the Pikmin off him in time when he comes up fast after the first attack. When he finally comes up slow, I kill him easily. As far as I can tell, it is COMPLETELY random whether he comes up fast or slow. If anyone knows differently, PLEASE tell me :-)

If I could just get lucky and have the Snagret comes up slow on his second or third attack on a run where I beat Beady with no losses, I would get that stupid 299. It'll happen eventually. As I get better and better at Beady, I'll get more and more chances at a lucky Snagret attack. Eventually it will all come together. Assuming I can keep my sanity that long that is :-)
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Posted by Ahlyis - 4/22/2002 11:06:34 AM

Final Trial - 297

I'm creeping up on it.

I had a 'perfect' run going finally. I had killed the frog and Beady both with no losses and the Snagret hadn't killed any Pikmin the last half dozen times I had faced him. So what does he do? Eats 3 Pikmin right off the bat, then eats 2 more for spite. I played him EXACTLY the same as I do every time, but the damn Pikmin didn't heed my call and got themselves killed. Every other time recently, they heeded my call, but when I finally have a great shot at a perfect run, they get stupid! Aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhh!

I'll get there eventually. I'm getting much more consistent. It's only a matter of time. Even the Snagret coming up fast 5 times in a row doesn't usually faze me now. Perhaps tonight I'll finally have it :-)
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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/22/2002 2:25:32 PM

Glad you're still kicking at it, Ahlyis. Your descriptions of the fine-tuning, and the repeated runs waiting for the right combinations of luck and not screwing anything up yourself - well, let's just say it takes all my courage not to run away screaming. :)

I've slowed a bit lately, but Pikmin is still pretty much all I play. I'm going through the regular game again trying to see how many pikmin I can grow in a 30-day game. I never really did the 9-day challenge or any of that - I think I've only played it through about 3 times, and I did it in around 18 days last time; I'm pretty confident I could get that down a good bit farther with everything I've learned from challenge mode. It's looking like 6000 in 30 days would be pretty good - mostly it looks like a lot of replaying Impact Site to do that. It's odd to start IS with 100 pikmin following you! :)

I do want to at least break 280 on FT, but I'm not even close at this point. I always run WAY out of time, although I've managed a few games with no losses - but in those games, beady's 10s are barely starting out on the bridge before time expires. It REALLY takes a long time for those buggers to get back. :P

Posted by Ahlyis - 4/23/2002 11:25:45 AM

Final Trial - 299 WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last night, I had my scoreboard full of 297's and 296's and couldn't seem to get past the frog except about 1 in 5 tries. It was late and I was just ready to quit, so I decided to make one last attempt. Good call! :-)

The stupid frog got airborne, but I managed to call all of the Pikmin back. the frog missed them all, but didn't quite die. He still had a tick of health. As soon as I swarmed him, he croaked and toppled over on top of about half my Pikmin. Miracle of miracles, none of them died. Not that they should have, just that I expected they would.

I took on Beady with 12 (or was it 14?) yellows and the Snagret came up nice and slow on the second pass. I spent the rest of the level worried I would find some other place to screw up! lol

Tomato, if (and it's a big if) I made a video of a perfect run, could I send it to you and have you digitize it for everyone? I'd host it again, but I don't have the equipment to convert VHS tapes to computer movies. The only problem is, I didn't tape THAT run, so I'll have to do it again...if you're willing to do the converting. :-)
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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/23/2002 12:06:04 PM

Woohoo! Congrats, Ahlyis! Perfection is scha-weeeet!

I'd be happy to digitize your vids (or anyone else's for that matter). A VHS tape is all I need - well, and a place to upload the result. :)

After so much challenge mode, it's really strange to be able to start levels like FT in the regular game and have 100 pikmins ready to roll right at the start. It's almost disorienting. Like, what the hell do I do with all these guys? :)

I'm gonna have to get back to FT this week and see if I can figure the timing out.

Posted by Ahlyis - 4/24/2002 11:07:17 AM

OK, I have a tape of a 299 Final Trial run. I've sent an email to Tomato asking for where to mail it to.

This particular run finished well before the countdown timer started. The Snagret came up fast only twice before coming up slow. Once Tomato gets it digitized and I get it posted for download, I'll post a commentary on the high and low lights of the run :-)
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Posted by Jimithingr - 4/24/2002 6:29:48 PM

Ahlyis....You are the man! Many congrats to you for being so dedicated to tie Snap..Now I need you to start playing DS and start giving me a reason to keep going, 501 is my high and I can't do any better just yet. Again Great job.
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Posted by Ahlyis - 4/25/2002 11:25:14 AM

Thx Jimi, but I'm taking a bit of a break from Pikmin now. Final Trial seemed pretty small and relatively easy to me. FoH, DS and FN are much larger and less obvious in how they need to be attacked.

If I can see how to attack something, I can do really well at refining and optimizing that attack. With the less organized levels, I'm at a complete loss as to how to attack them. With enough practice on them I'm sure I could develop a plan of attack. I'm just not willing to do that right now. Maybe after I've had a break for a bit :-)

Ferret, isn't it time for a new listing of the top scores? Are you still checking up on us here? :-)
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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/26/2002 5:02:25 PM

One last Impact Site note: I played it again in normal mode, just fooling around, and I hit the Flint Beetle ten times. I had 100 flowered reds and got him in a corner and just pummeled the bejeezus out of him. I'm completely sure of the 10: he flipped twice after the second 5 came out.

Results on hit 9 and 10: nectar, nectar. Or, to be more complete:

hit 1 - 1 pellet
hit 2 - nectar
hit 3 - nectar
hit 4 - 5 pellet
hit 5 - 1 pellet
hit 6 - nectar
hit 7 - nectar
hit 8 - 5 pellet
hit 9 - nectar
hit 10 - nectar

That was the only time I've hit him 10 times, and I'm not even sure I had done a 9 before. I think this means the 278 on Impact Site challenge mode is safe. :)

Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/27/2002 12:00:22 AM

Pikmin Leader Board - April 26, 2002:

Impact Site:
1. 278 (TomatoMan)
2. 273 (SnapDragon)
2. 273 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2. 273 (JimiThingR)
2. 273 (Ferret5317)
2. 273 (spenser)

Forest of Hope:
1. 569 (SnapDragon)
2. 568 (topotheclass)
3. 544 (spenser)
3. 529 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
4. 528 (redpichead)

Forest Navel:
1. 439 (SnapDragon)
2. 397 (redpichead)
2. 397 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2. 397 (Ferret5317)
5. 390 (JimiThingR)

Distant Spring:
1. 516 (SnapDragon)
2. 507 (redpichead)
3. 501 (JimiThingR)
4. 500 (Ferret5317)
5. 470 (Nathan Ian Bowers)

Final Trial:
1. 299 (SnapDragon)
1. 299 (Ahlyis)
3. 281 (redpichead)
4. 267 (Ferret5317)
5. 241 (TomatoMan)

Yep, I'm still here :) You guys are doing great, I'm glad to see there is still some action around here... Believe it or not, I do check often. But still, Super Monkey Ball has me 'whipped' so to speak. I am really looking forward to getting back into Pikmin soon. I am finally able to go a night or two in a row without any Monkeys, and that is a good sign.

-Ferret

P.S. Forgive any errors, I am pretty sure this is an accurate update... But it's easy to get confused because not everyone posts their scores in bold. Please post your scores in bold text, people. :)

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Posted by SnapDragon - 4/27/2002 2:59:13 PM

That's good to know, TomatoMan; your results agree with mine. So I feel pretty safe in declaring 278 a perfect score, with you as the sole owner. W00t!

And a big "way to go" to Ahlyis! Congratulations on getting a tough perfect score on Final Trial. There are now 4 perfect scores on our humble little page... we've really come a long way.

Posted by TomatoMan - 4/27/2002 11:50:09 PM

Snap - coming from you, that makes me sleep easier! :) What I'm most amazed by at this point is how far ahead of all of us you were in your feats - you were putting up these scores months ago, and have moved on to other things, while we still struggle to catch up even now.

Ahylis - I got the tape today, and pulled in your 299 for digitizing. I hope to have a trial version ready for you tomorrow. It's an amazing run - you make it look so easy. Some things that really stood out for me:

1) The frequent use of the top-view camera angle clearly helped in many places.
2) Using Olimar to club the dwarf bulborbs like that is clearly a big win - it never occurred to me to even try that, but it sure saves you some time and energy.
3) I never realized you could get the yellow 10 up on the ledge from the ground like that - I always went to it from up by the shagret, which was always messy and time-consuming. Cool.
4) You finish with so much time left over that it's almost ridiculous. The top-view pikmin-scattering tantrum at the end of the run is very funny. :)

I'll mail you when I've got a sample ready! Should be tomorrow (Sunday). w00t!

Posted by Ferret5317 - 4/28/2002 2:49:26 AM

Oh, hey guys.. I just want to request something from one of you who has the old "Challenge Mode Scores?" topic saved. Could you please send me a copy? I would appreciate it greatly. :)

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Posted by TomatoMan - 4/28/2002 10:05:30 AM

Hey Ferret. Here's the archive I made:

http://slinberg.net/pikmin_challenge_mode_archive.tar.gz

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