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From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/18/2002 2:20:16 PM | Message Detail

From SnapDragon's introduction to the last Challenge Mode topic:

"Anyone is welcome to post their scores here and get some recognition, even if they're not in the running for the high-score charts. Don't be intimidated by the scores here; many of us have played each individual level hundreds of times, and there's no shame in not reaching that level of hardcoreness. :)"

We are expanding the high score boards to 20 for the 5 levels. I added the scores that were posted after the last update on the previous thread, but did not search back through the thred for scores that had been bumped. Please post any scores that you wish to have on the top 20 lists. The current list is:

Challenge Mode High Scores as of 11-18-2002

Impact Site:
1. 278 (TomatoMan, SuperStein, cocoapuffs999, Mikepharvey, Rogue7, Nathan Ian Bowers)

Other Top Scores:
7. 273 (Snapdragon, JimiThingR, Ferret5317, spenser, Cork, Ahlyis)
13. 266 (Xel23)
14. 263 (GasMan)
15. 253 (jakemrjr)
16. 231 (Grenade Guzzler)

Forest of Hope:
1. 569 (Snapdragon, SuperStein, Nathan Ian Bowers, cocoapuffs999, Rogue7)

Other Top Scores:
6. 568 (topotheclass, Mikepharvey)
8. 560 (Grenade Guzzler)
9. 548 (TomatoMan)
10. 544 (spenser)
11. 543 (Ahlyis)
12. 528 (redpichead)
13. 501 (Xel23)
14. 490 (Lewellyn)
15. 485 (JimiThingR)

Forest Navel:
1. 452 (Nathan Ian Bowers, Mikepharvey)

Other Top Scores:
3. 442 (Rogue7)
4. 439 (Snapdragon)
5. 418 (cocoapuffs999)
6. 397 (redpichead, Ferret5317)
8. 390 (JimiThingR, SuperStein)
10. 377 (Nai)
11. 374 (Grenade Guzzler)
12. 349 (jakemrjr)
13. 347 (Xel23)
14. 332 (smoky progg)
15. 331 (robluvsnic)
16. 320 (TomatoMan)
17. 313 (Ahlyis)

Distant Spring:
1. 582 (Ferret5317)
2. 553 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
3. 533 (cocoapuffs999)
4. 520 (Rouge7)
5. 516 (Snapdragon)
6. 507 (redpichead)
7. 501 (JimiThingR)
8. 489 (Grenade Guzzler)
9. 482 (Nai)
10. 449 (TomatoMan)
11. 443 (topotheclass)
12. 439 (jakemrjr)
13. 437 (robluvsnic)
14. 403 (Xel23)
15. 402 (Ahlyis)
16. 399 (Souja246)
17. 386 (SuperStein)
18. 298 (ShadowNinjaGuy)

Final Trial:
1. 299 (Snapdragon, Ahlyis, SuperStein, Rouge7, Mikepharvey, cocoapuffs999, Nathan Ian Bowers)

Other Top Scores:
8. 281 (redpichead)
9. 278 (jakemrjr)
10. 267 (Ferret5317)
11. 266 (Lewellyn)
12. 251 (JimiThingR)
13. 242 (Secrano)
14. 241 (TomatoMan)
15. 224 (Grenade Guzzler)
16. 220 (robluvsnic)

And our new category:
Top ten combined totals:
1) 2151 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2) 2108 (Rogue7)
3) 2097 (Cocoapuffs999)
4) 2096 (SnapDragon)
5) 2000 (JimiThingr)
6) 1988 (Ferret5317)
7) 1918 (SuperStein)
8) 1831 (TomatoMan) (old score, new total needed)
9) 1830 (Ahlyis)
10) 1769 (jakemrjr)

I took these straight from the last thread and did not actually calculate them.
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I'm just a pigment of your imagination.

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/18/2002 2:22:39 PM | Message Detail

I ran out of room on the first post, so here's some notes:

Our current policy for scores that claim to be in the top 3 is to have some kind of verification before the asterisk is removed; an asterisk next to a score indicates an unverified claim. A good method of verification is to post a photo showing the screen with the high score, and a napkin taped to the TV with your GameFAQs name and the date.

The top ten combined totals needs to be verified and updated (TomatoMan's score at least is incorrect). I simply don't have time right now. I will correct it on the next High Score update.

We should keep the combined totals list to only a top 10. Any more will be hard to maintain and may push us over the 4k limit once we get a full 20 on each of the other lists.
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From: Nai | Posted: 11/18/2002 2:49:44 PM | Message Detail

It's very good that Pikmin got to 4th version of an High Scores Topic! Anyway, it's the first version of the topic with my scores... Applause, please! =PPP

Keep up the good work!
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Currently playing: SMS, 118 Shines

From: SuperStein | Posted: 11/18/2002 3:22:25 PM | Message Detail

Great! The 4th topic is up! I think I'll have to restart my Pikmining soon!

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Beauty lies in the eyes of the beerholder!

From: TomatoMan | Posted: 11/18/2002 5:47:24 PM | Message Detail

Excellent, excellent, very nice job Ahlyis! It's great to kick off the fourth version of this thread - that's really something special!

In fact, unless I'm remembering wrong, isn't today the one year anniversary of Pikmin's release? Or is it the Cube's release? Maybe it's that. Never mind. :)

I do like the "combined total" score thing, too. That's a nice addition.

Nathan, I haven't received your tape yet, but I'm assuming I will tomorrow.

Back to setting up a new server, but I'll squeeze a round or two of FoH off tonight!

TM

From: Xel23 | Posted: 11/18/2002 7:44:22 PM | Message Detail

It's so wierd how I have boosts in every level every once in a while.
IS-270
FoH-524
FN-389
DS-441
FN-248

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Winner of MMBN2 Folder Contest!

From: robluvsnic | Posted: 11/18/2002 7:45:40 PM | Message Detail

Great job Ahlyis! And the top 10 combined scores is a fantastic idea too. I really like the look of the first entry in this thread: I'm in 3 of the top 20s! Maybe I'll check only the first page from now on so that I never have to see my name get pushed out. ;-)

Then again maybe my top score in

FoH -- 444

will get me in a 4th top 20(?). I seriously doubt that my high in

IS -- 212

will get me anywhere, though.

*For all new entrants, please note the use of bold to highlight newly submitted scores.
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Please don't beat me!

From: robluvsnic | Posted: 11/18/2002 7:50:23 PM | Message Detail

Oh no! Xel23's post got in before mine. Please, Xel23, my last comment was in no way directed at you, or at anyone specific. It was intended merely to be a handy hint.
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Please don't beat me!

From: Grenade Guzzler | Posted: 11/18/2002 8:43:24 PM | Message Detail

Final Trial: 279

Woohoo! Was able to do things MUCH faster this time.
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Dynamite tastes like chicken until it explodes.
-Me

From: TomatoMan | Posted: 11/18/2002 8:56:37 PM | Message Detail

Woo! Demolished my FN score.

Forest Navel - 345

This puts my total at 278 + 548 + 345 + 449 + 241 = 1861. w00t!

TM

From: Xel23 | Posted: 11/19/2002 6:29:41 AM | Message Detail

That's OK, robluvsnic. I'll do it now.
IS-270
FoH-524
FN-389
DS-441
FN-248
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Winner of MMBN2 Folder Contest!
Leader of VPL, member of AXA.

From: Mikepharvey | Posted: 11/19/2002 8:21:51 AM | Message Detail

a new page, same old score. cant beat 568 in foh. i keep getting 1 mysterious death. aaagghhh. i did it yesterday and i had everything back when the countdown had just begun, but one stupid md on the black bulborb in the pearl area cost be a perfect.
i am determined to get it done today. then on to distant springs.
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Incubus rule!

From: TopVideoGamer | Posted: 11/19/2002 7:13:29 PM | Message Detail

I don't think I'm that dedicated
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From: Rouge7 | Posted: 11/20/2002 8:33:25 AM | Message Detail

Long time since I've had a new high:

FN - 447

Moved a few 1 pellets that I used to collect at the end to the middle and left out the yellow 5 at the end to give me enough guys to get the yellow 10 in the BLL area at the end.
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R7

From: SuperStein | Posted: 11/20/2002 8:44:43 AM | Message Detail

Mikepharveys latest feat.

http://ftp.home.no/mariokart/pics/mike.jpg

The pic says it all! Congrats Mike!
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From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/20/2002 10:02:42 AM | Message Detail

Actually, the pic doesn't say it all. At least, not for those of us updating the scoreboard. I know I don't want to have to follow a link every time in order to find out what the scores are for the update.

It was a cute post, but please people, post the scores in bold for us. If you don't post them in bold, they very well might get missed.
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I'm just a pigment of your imagination.

From: SuperStein | Posted: 11/20/2002 1:47:09 PM | Message Detail

Hey! I'm just doing this for mikepharvey! He's going to put his score in bold himself! Arent you?
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Beauty lies in the eyes of the beerholder...!

From: Grenade Guzzler | Posted: 11/20/2002 4:52:57 PM | Message Detail

Forest of Hope: 561

Was able to get everything back in, but I had a LOT of mysterious deaths (in addition to a red who tripped and fell in the water, couldn't save him).
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Dynamite tastes like chicken until it explodes.
-Me

From: Nathan Ian Bowers | Posted: 11/20/2002 8:31:05 PM | Message Detail

Congratulations to all the new scores (Xel23, robluvsnic, Grenade Guzzler, TomatoMan, Mikepharvey and Rogue7). Quite the flood of scores!

Mike, you finally got it. Now you've got the four perfects and I assume you'll soon be mounting an offensive in the Distant Spring.

Rogue, I'm glad you're not satisfied with 442. You thinking of going for the 452?

Nai, I actually posted your Distant Spring and Forest Navel scores on November 16 in the old Challenge Mode thread. Just thought you'd like to know that I gave you credit before the old thread died.

Tomato, I'm happy my video finally got there. I didn't expect it to take eight days, however. Have you gotten a chance to check it out yet? If not, it's the last run on the tape (right before the tape runs out). I didn't bother writing down a tracking number for you because I figured its proximity to the end of the tape makes it easy to locate.

That's all for now.

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Captain Nathanian Nibbles of the U.S.S. Awesome

From: Mikepharvey | Posted: 11/21/2002 5:08:13 AM | Message Detail

Forest of hope-569

thanx stein

Distant springs-518

only 5 goes on this so i was amazed i broke 500 so quick

total score=2116
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Incubus rule!

From: Rouge7 | Posted: 11/21/2002 8:45:44 AM | Message Detail

Thanks, Nathan. I'm trying for 452, but so far I'm nowhere close. Not even sure if my revised end can be done if I make great time.

MikeP, nice work on FoH and DS. I see you have also passed me in total points. You stink.
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R7

From: Nathan Ian Bowers | Posted: 11/21/2002 12:59:42 PM | Message Detail

Challenge Mode High Scores as of 11-21-2002

Impact Site:
1. 278 (TomatoMan, SuperStein, cocoapuffs999, Mikepharvey, Rogue7, Nathan Ian Bowers)

Other Top Scores:
7. 273 (Snapdragon, JimiThingR, Ferret5317, spenser, Cork, Ahlyis)
13. 270 (Xel23)
14. 263 (GasMan)
15. 253 (jakemrjr)
16. 246 (Lewellyn)
17. 231 (Grenade Guzzler)
18. 212 (robluvsnic)

Forest of Hope:
1. 569 (Snapdragon, SuperStein, Nathan Ian Bowers, cocoapuffs999, Rogue7, Mikepharvey)

Other Top Scores:
7. 568 (topotheclass)
8. 561 (Grenade Guzzler)
9. 548 (TomatoMan)
10. 544 (spenser)
11. 543 (Ahlyis)
12. 528 (redpichead)
13. 524 (Xel23)
14. 490 (Lewellyn)
15. 485 (JimiThingR)
16. 469 (Ferret5317)
17. 450 (jakemrjr)
18. 444 (robluvsnic)

Forest Navel:
1. 452 (Nathan Ian Bowers, Mikepharvey)

Other Top Scores:
3. 447 (*Rogue7)
4. 439 (Snapdragon)
5. 418 (cocoapuffs999)
6. 397 (redpichead, Ferret5317)
8. 390 (JimiThingR, SuperStein)
10. 389 (Xel23)
11. 377 (Nai)
12. 374 (Grenade Guzzler)
13. 349 (jakemrjr)
14. 345 (TomatoMan)
15. 332 (smoky progg)
16. 331 (robluvsnic)
17. 313 (Ahlyis)
18. 303 (AdvanceGamer)

Distant Spring:
1. 582 (Ferret5317)
2. 553 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
3. 533 (cocoapuffs999)
4. 520 (Rogue7)
5. 518 (Mikepharvey)
6. 516 (Snapdragon)
7. 507 (redpichead)
8. 501 (JimiThingR)
9. 489 (Grenade Guzzler)
10. 482 (Nai)
11. 449 (TomatoMan)
12. 443 (topotheclass)
13. 441 (Xel23)
14. 439 (jakemrjr)
15. 437 (robluvsnic)
16. 402 (Ahlyis)
17. 399 (Souja246)
18. 386 (SuperStein)
19. 298 (ShadowNinjaGuy)

Final Trial:
1. 299 (Snapdragon, Ahlyis, SuperStein, Rogue7, Mikepharvey, cocoapuffs999, Nathan Ian Bowers)

Other Top Scores:
8. 281 (redpichead)
9. 279 (Grenade Guzzler)
10. 278 (jakemrjr)
11. 267 (Ferret5317)
12. 266 (Lewellyn)
13. 251 (JimiThingR)
14. 248 (Xel23)
15. 242 (Secrano)
16. 241 (TomatoMan)
17. 220 (robluvsnic)
18. 218 (Kingfisher)
19. 214 (TrentEaston)

Top Ten Combined Totals:
1) 2151 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2) 2116 (Mikepharvey)
3) 2113 (Rogue7)
4) 2097 (Cocoapuffs999)
5) 2096 (SnapDragon)
6) 2000 (JimiThingr)
7) 1988 (Ferret5317)
8) 1934 (Grenade Guzzler)
9) 1918 (SuperStein)
10) 1872 (Xel23)

Notes:

-- The only asterisk on the board is Rogue7's 447. Personally, I don't need any verification to believe him but we can't be hypocritical about the rules.

-- I went back to the November 16 score board and reinstated the "honorable mention" scores that were kicked off the last Top 15.

-- If I left anyone out, please post a message and we will give you credit next time.

-- Remember to post all new scores in bold.

From: TomatoMan | Posted: 11/21/2002 2:35:56 PM | Message Detail

Oh, man, I'm 11 points off the top ten combined scores. Nooooo!!! I've got to make an assault on an improvable level and jump up.

TM

From: Rouge7 | Posted: 11/21/2002 5:10:27 PM | Message Detail

Might take me awhile to take a pic, I want to give 452 a bunch of tries before going through the effort. Appreciate the vote of confidence, Nathan, and agree that no one should be exempt from our verification rules.

Also, I'm pretty sure JimithingR's total is 1900 and SuperStein's is 1922, but I could have missed something.
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R7

From: TomatoMan | Posted: 11/21/2002 5:10:30 PM | Message Detail

All righty! Just finished ripping Nathan's FN 452, and I'm going to slap together quicktime vids of it so people can see it. Ahlyis, think you can host one more vid for us?

My off-the-bat reaction to this run is: it's eerily calm. Deceptively so. This became abundantly clear at one point about halfway through when Nathan's coming up from the puffstool area with about 40 pikmins in tow, and he runs right past a blue 1 that's right smack in the middle of his path. He comes back for it later on, but he knows exactly what he needs to do and what the plan is. There's an amusing bit where he flings away a blue 1 early in the game for no apparent reason, but you see it later. He finishes the 452 just as the countdown starts, and we're treated to a fireworks show at the end.

All of this the product of a cold, calculating mind with one purpose only: to kill. Well, or to pluck lots of Pikmin. :) This vid is a clinic in precision. Amazing job, Nathan.

TM

From: Nathan Ian Bowers | Posted: 11/21/2002 6:12:45 PM | Message Detail

Rogue, you're absolutely right. I was adding them up in my head and screwed them up. Should've used a calculator. We'll correct it next time.

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Captain Nathanian Nibbles of the U.S.S. Awesome

From: TomatoMan | Posted: 11/21/2002 6:16:39 PM | Message Detail

...aaaaaaand topping that off with a new high:

Forest of Hope - 559

Suspiciously enough, this is an 11-point improvement... and I saw earlier that I had been bounced from the top 10 combined by 11 points. This brings my total to 1872, enough to tie Xel23 for tenth place overall. Sad to be excited about tenth place, but there it is. :P Had a couple of things being sucked up with the counter at zero, but didn't get credit for them. :( I was sure I had broken 560. Ah well.

TM

PS: the lo-res version of Nathan's 452 is done. 118mb unzipped. The hi-res version is underway.

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/21/2002 7:00:29 PM | Message Detail

Send me an email with the link and I'll pull it down tomorrow, then upload it to our servers here for everyone else to get. You still have my email address right? If not, it's dwood@rational.comm with only one m on the end.
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From: Nathan Ian Bowers | Posted: 11/21/2002 11:14:56 PM | Message Detail

Tomato, thanks for the kind words. I'm more proud of my work on Forest Navel than I am of any other level. Sometimes I watch the video and it kills me how much time I had at the end. I keep having to fight the notion that instead of putting more Pikmin than are necessary on the blue 5, yellow 5 and red 20 at the end I could run over to the pearl area again and try to get the yellow 10 in. But I don't think it could happen. I'd have to run back up and get more guys then run back down and double up the yellow. This would take too long. How difficult it is to satisfy a mortal.

I just thought I'd mention something about the one blue Pikmin I throw away and use later: it seems Rogue and I both managed to come up with this idea completely independent of one another. So I don't want to look like I'm the only sick fool who came up with the trick. I like the way you think, Rogue!

Ahlyis, thanks for hosting the video.

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Captain Nathanian Nibbles of the U.S.S. Awesome

From: Mikepharvey | Posted: 11/22/2002 4:19:24 AM | Message Detail

rogue, i am just giving you added incentive to go for the 452 on FN. think of it as a favour.

friday afternoons are free so i will go for another assault on distant spring today.
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Incubus rule!

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/22/2002 10:14:51 AM | Message Detail

FoH - 564
Combined total - 1851 (still off the top 10, but closer)

Having returned my rented copy of TimeSplitters 2 on Xbox, I found myself with some time last night to play Pikmin again. I almost quit after just a few rounds because I was so out of practice, but decided I really had nothing better to do anyway and stuck with it. Good call :-)

I stuck with the same basic pattern I've been using all along, but made some modifications to save some time. I'll post an updated version of my walkthrough to Xel's FAQ thread.

I got everything back in, though the yellow 20 pellet got sucked up with the counter on 1. I lost 5 Pikmin at various points, but none by mysterious death. I know my pattern can get a perfect now. It's just a matter of pulling off that one clean run! :-)
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I'm just a pigment of your imagination.

From: Jimithingr | Posted: 11/23/2002 8:04:25 PM | Message Detail

Jimi's Back, nothing huge to report, but I do want to mention that I got a 499 in FoH . I have really been working on that level recently, and found a decent strat to get even higher so expect me to report back soon. Good job to all you so far, I wish I had the time to compete, maybe someday... Game on!
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From: Mikepharvey | Posted: 11/24/2002 11:32:07 AM | Message Detail

sorry rogue

distant spring-543

i also had a 538 with a wollywog, bulborb and mini bulborb about to be sucked up. so i think you should start worrying nath.
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Incubus rule!

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/24/2002 7:08:40 PM | Message Detail

FoH - 567 Got 567 twice actually.

I can consistently get everything in now, though still with little time on the clock. I just need to have a run with no deaths. I rarely have a mysterious death anymore. Most of the deaths are from dwarfs munching on my Pikmin. I'm gonna have to be more careful against multiple dwarfs.
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I'm just a pigment of your imagination.

From: Grenade Guzzler | Posted: 11/24/2002 9:45:04 PM | Message Detail

Forest of Hope: 566

Noooooooo!!! I got three mysterious deaths, all from the same Bulbear!

I'm almost at the 569 pedstedal... I just gotta stop these mysterious deaths from happening.
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Dynamite tastes like chicken until it explodes.
-Me

From: Nathan Ian Bowers | Posted: 11/25/2002 3:04:28 AM | Message Detail

Distant Spring - 558

As Tomato is fond of saying, it's a game of inches. This was the fourth run of my revised strategy. I had hit a wall with the old strat and was racking my brains trying to figure out what to change to yield better results. What I finally concluded was that one Wollywog that I attack early in my old strat is best left to the end of the run. By making this tiny change I was able to kill and retrieve several creatures in the same amount of time.

I had a handful of mysterious deaths (it's too frantic for me to keep count but I can tell there were several because the base had a lot of sprouts growing at the end), two misfiled yellow 5-pellets and a misfiled red 10-pellet. I also had a Wollywog at the blue onion as time expired. I'm not sure what the maximum for my new strategy would be but I am shooting for between 565 and 575. I also decided it better not to attack any Puffy Blowhogs because they are more unpredictable than other enemies, often take longer to kill and drop random color pellets.

Mike, I don't know if I should bless or curse you. You've put the fear of God in me, that much is for sure. I don't want to lose my crown. I think it's time to go for the gusto and attack Ferret's score. Good job, by the way.

It looks like there's a Forest of Hope revival going on. Ahlyis and Grenade Guzzler have both cleared the level and are now just working on doing so without deaths. Nice work, guys! I figure Tomato is still in the hunt for his second perfection as well and I talked to JimiThingR today who informed me he has broken 500 finally (well over 500, but I'll let him post his own score). If everybody keeps at it we potentially have four more members of the FoH perfection club. Onward, Pikmin soldiers.

I need to go to bed now. It's extremely late....so late that some might call it early. I just couldn't go to sleep until I ran through Distant Spring one more time and tried out the ideas bouncing around frantically in my head like a rubber ball in a frictionless box.

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Captain Nathanian Nibbles of the U.S.S. Awesome

From: Mikepharvey | Posted: 11/25/2002 6:13:36 AM | Message Detail

nathan, i could kill you, no sooner was i dancing with joy gaining a 553 and equalling your score i discover you get a 558!!!

Distant spring-553

i had about 10 deaths, a yellow 10,blue 5,blue1,red 5 in wrong onions which i usually get right and i had a red 5 about to be sucked up. i made some major mistakes as well and never had time to go for the 3 dwarf bulbs and 10 red pellet at the end.

i will postpone sending a pic till next week as i am highly confident i will beat my score.
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Incubus rule!

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/25/2002 10:25:09 AM | Message Detail

FoH - 569
FN - 395
Combined Total - 1938

Finally got the perfecto on FoH. If someone really wants it, I can get a screenshot, but in the past we've said that either a screenshot OR a detailed walkthrough is sufficient. I have posted a very detailed walkthrough for Xel's guide already. If that is not considered sufficient any more, let me know.

The 395 on FN came by following Rogue7s 'easy' walkthrough from Xel's guide. The target score there is 350+, but with some minor modifications I pushed it to nearly 400. Nevertheless the pattern is mainly Rogue7's. :-)
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From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/25/2002 10:54:47 AM | Message Detail

Here's the links for Nathan's FN video:

ftp://exchange.rational.com/exchange/outgoing/dwood/FN-452-lo.zip
ftp://exchange.rational.com/exchange/outgoing/dwood/FN-452-hi.zip

Once again, please download these files only once and save them to disk. Please do NOT post these links anywhere else. These files will be deleted approximately 90 days from today.

The lo-res version is up. I am uploading the hi-res version right now. It's probably up by the time you are reading this.
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I'm just a pigment of your imagination.

From: Rouge7 | Posted: 11/25/2002 11:12:14 AM | Message Detail

Glad I could help, Ahlyis, especially after using your strat for FT. Excellent work on FoH 569 also!

Nathan, that little move to collect the blue 1 by tossing one aside and using it later is a nice one. That pellet gave me fits until I figured that out. I would say great minds think alike, but if that were true I'd have that 452 by now.

MikeP, at least Nathan's around to make you feel some of my pain. Seriously, nice work on DS (Nathan, too).
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R7

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/25/2002 12:08:27 PM | Message Detail

The hi-res version is up now.

My FoH run finished with 9 on the timer. It was done much faster then my previous runs. It's nice to get to the point on a level where you know it so well that you can picture the entire thing in your head and make 'counts' to know how many of what colors you need and where.

I don't know FN that well yet, but I gotta make what may be a stupid comment anyway. :-)

After viewing Nathan's 452 run, I can't help but believe that 462 is possible. That yellow 10 can be gotten. Nathan does some very good organizing at the start and does much of it much cleaner than I have been. But even so, I saw a few places where he loses some time that could have been saved. By itself, it's probably not enough. Everyone is going to have some less than perfect spots even on their best run. But he does so much running back and forth later on, that I gotta believe there's got to be a quicker way.

Then again, since the two masters are both convinced that 452 is the limit, what do I know. But wait, wasn't Nathan convinced that 442 was the limit...??? :-)
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I'm just a pigment of your imagination.

From: SuperStein | Posted: 11/25/2002 12:47:48 PM | Message Detail

Ahlyis: How large are the videos? BTW, very nice job to all of the record achievers here!
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Beauty lies in the eyes of the beerholder...!

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/25/2002 2:52:49 PM | Message Detail

lo-res is just under 120M and hi-res a little over 420M.
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From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/25/2002 3:07:57 PM | Message Detail

Challenge Mode High Scores as of 11-25-2002

Impact Site:
1. 278 (TomatoMan, SuperStein, cocoapuffs999, Mikepharvey, Rogue7, Nathan Ian Bowers)

Other Top Scores:
7. 273 (Snapdragon, JimiThingR, Ferret5317, spenser, Cork, Ahlyis)
13. 270 (Xel23)
14. 263 (GasMan)
15. 253 (jakemrjr)
16. 246 (Lewellyn)
17. 231 (Grenade Guzzler)
18. 212 (robluvsnic)

Forest of Hope:
1. 569 (Snapdragon, SuperStein, Nathan Ian Bowers, cocoapuffs999, Rogue7, Mikepharvey, Ahlyis)

Other Top Scores:
8. 568 (topotheclass)
9. 566 (Grenade Guzzler)
10. 559 (TomatoMan)
11. 544 (spenser)
12. 528 (redpichead)
13. 524 (Xel23)
14. 499 (JimiThingR)
15. 490 (Lewellyn)
16. 469 (Ferret5317)
17. 450 (jakemrjr)
18. 444 (robluvsnic)

Forest Navel:
1. 452 (Nathan Ian Bowers, Mikepharvey)

Other Top Scores:
3. 447 (*Rogue7)
4. 439 (Snapdragon)
5. 418 (cocoapuffs999)
6. 397 (redpichead, Ferret5317)
8. 395 (Ahlyis)
9. 390 (JimiThingR, SuperStein)
11. 389 (Xel23)
12. 377 (Nai)
13. 374 (Grenade Guzzler)
14. 349 (jakemrjr)
15. 345 (TomatoMan)
16. 332 (smoky progg)
17. 331 (robluvsnic)
18. 303 (AdvanceGamer)

Distant Spring:
1. 582 (Ferret5317)
2. 558 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
5. 553 (Mikepharvey)
3. 533 (cocoapuffs999)
4. 520 (Rogue7)
6. 516 (Snapdragon)
7. 507 (redpichead)
8. 501 (JimiThingR)
9. 489 (Grenade Guzzler)
10. 482 (Nai)
11. 449 (TomatoMan)
12. 443 (topotheclass)
13. 441 (Xel23)
14. 439 (jakemrjr)
15. 437 (robluvsnic)
16. 402 (Ahlyis)
17. 399 (Souja246)
18. 386 (SuperStein)
19. 298 (ShadowNinjaGuy)

Final Trial:
1. 299 (Snapdragon, Ahlyis, SuperStein, Rogue7, Mikepharvey, cocoapuffs999, Nathan Ian Bowers)

Other Top Scores:
8. 281 (redpichead)
9. 279 (Grenade Guzzler)
10. 278 (jakemrjr)
11. 267 (Ferret5317)
12. 266 (Lewellyn)
13. 251 (JimiThingR)
14. 248 (Xel23)
15. 242 (Secrano)
16. 241 (TomatoMan)
17. 220 (robluvsnic)
18. 218 (Kingfisher)
19. 214 (TrentEaston)

Top Ten Combined Totals:
1) 2156 (Nathan Ian Bowers)
2) 2151 (Mikepharvey)
3) 2113 (Rogue7)
4) 2097 (Cocoapuffs999)
5) 2096 (SnapDragon)
6) 1988 (Ferret5317)
7) 1939 (Grenade Guzzler)
8) 1938 (Ahlyis)
9) 1922 (SuperStein)
10) 1914 (JimiThingr)

Notes:
I took care of that nasty tie for 10th on the Combined totals list. Sorry tomatoman. :-)
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From: TomatoMan | Posted: 11/25/2002 3:56:45 PM | Message Detail

Curse you, Ahlyis! :)

Jeez, now I've gotta bring my scores up by 42 just to sneak back to last place on the top 10 combined! Yowch!

Well, when I get back home next week, I'm turning it on again! Get that perfecto on FoH and then I think it's back to Distant Spring, where I've got 241 and lots of room to grow! :)

TM

From: Ahlyis | Posted: 11/25/2002 3:58:52 PM | Message Detail

FT you mean? Your score is slightly higher than 241 on DS! lol
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From: Nathan Ian Bowers | Posted: 11/25/2002 6:08:05 PM | Message Detail

Distant Spring - 565

Mike is hot on my tail but my strategy is kicking into high gear just in time. This time I pulled in everything I had laid out in the inventory I posted a while ago....except for the Puffy Blowhog. The goal in that inventory was 594 and it assumed that all pellets are filed correctly and no deaths occur. So 579 would be the maximum score with my current "Sans Puffy Blowhog" strategy without any mis-filings or deaths. Realistically the strat can pull in just over 570 if the important Wollywogs drop blues. Now I have a choice to make: either keep trying to get the most out of my current strat and eek the score up inches at a time or examine it thoroughly and seek out weak points. I think the former has more potential because it's a very efficient strategy and has plenty of potential. My 565 run was very sloppy and I could have had an extra 30 seconds to work with at the end if I had moved more smoothly. What I'm thinking is that if I have a run where I'm moving very quickly I can possibly attack the blowhog with the time I save and pull in his pellets. I hope I can do it because another rethink will be taxing on my brain.

If I had done this a couple of hours earlier it would have made the new score board. Oh well.

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Captain Nathanian Nibbles of the U.S.S. Awesome

From: TomatoMan | Posted: 11/25/2002 7:37:02 PM | Message Detail

Nathan is scary even from a distance. Keep that VCR rolling, man!

Ahlyis: d'oh! Right, FT. I'm such a spaz with the level names, even still. Didn't I mistitle your run "DS" on the first vid I produced? :P

I archived the third challenge mode thread, and I still have the first. Still kicking myself about missing the second. :(

TM

From: robluvsnic | Posted: 11/25/2002 7:58:58 PM | Message Detail

Wow. Things are getting exciting around here. So much movement, and best of all is the prospect of theoretical "perfects" being challenged. Just imagine it ... someone breaking 600 on DS. Highly improbable, I know, but is it impossible?

What time I get to make runs I'm devoting to FN now, and I have to say that I think any score on FN that can break 400 is worthy of high praise -- so congratulations especially to Nathan, Mike and Rogue (and I know, Ahlyis, that you'll break 400 shortly). My current strat was worked out on the presumption that getting the two 20s and the two 10s down past the pearly clam-clamp is nigh impossible, as is getting the two yellow 10s in the water (in different spots) and the yellow 20 needing the bridge. That means that I'm automatically ruling out 100 pikmin and working towards a theoretical top of 382 -- and that's only if I manage to get everything else in!

A more realistic target is 350, I suppose, and after that (if it ever happens) I'd like to devote my time to breaking 450 (maybe 500???) on DS.

Meanwhile, good luck everyone.
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From: Grenade Guzzler | Posted: 11/25/2002 7:59:23 PM | Message Detail

Forest of Hope: 568

Yes, that's one away from maximum. I got no deaths, but I messed up and put a blue 1 pellet in the yellow Onion. Argh. Gotta be more careful next time.
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Dynamite tastes like chicken until it explodes.
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